[Faith-talk] Refutation and preeminent repudiation totheZionist subjection.

Sun Jul 20 20:18:23 UTC 2014

By Gnostic literature I assume you mean Jewish gnostic literature written 
during the intertestamental period, including the Essenes' "Manual of 
Discipline?" Paul
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brandon A. Olivares via Faith-talk" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>; "Faith-talk,for the 
discussion of faith and religion" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Refutation and preeminent repudiation totheZionist 
subjection.

It’s funny you bring up the dead sea scrolls. Because though they include 
older manuscripts of the gospels, they also include the gnostic texts, which 
quite contradict traditional Christian doctrine. So I do not think they 
prove your point.

Peace,
Brandon

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On Jul 20, 2014, at 2:13 PM, RJ Sandefur via Faith-talk 
<faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Thank you Poppa Bare for that point! He tries to make himself sound 
> educated, when in reality, he knows nothing concerning the Christianity 
> faith, rather only what he's been taught, and futhermore, these so-called 
> arguments have been disproven time and time again. It is just laughible! 
> The dead sea scroles prove that the bible we have today is what the bible 
> claimes to be, the word of God! I found a really good websight.
> www.answeringislam.com
> Do research before you try debating someone with a doctorate degree.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Poppa Bear via Faith-talk" 
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: "'Mostafa'" <mostafa.almahdy at gmail.com>; "'Faith-talk,for the 
> discussion of faith and religion'" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 1:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Refutation and preeminent repudiation to 
> theZionist subjection.
>
>
> Hello Mustafa, I was talking about the ability to gather accurately the
> transmitted data from cultures throughout history in any field of study
> related to a written text, that truth is still a reality regardless of
> whether or not you like to pick and choose the best words of elocution to
> try and prove your points. This was called sophistry in ancient days and I
> think you have acquired a formidable ability to execute it in your
> arguments. You do indeed dismiss anything that does not fit your argument
> even if it is   valid, you will still take an arbitrary direction and 
> avoid
> the points of any person who responds to you. You keep fighting against 
> the
> Bible and making your various arguments, but I know that the living God is
> able to defend his word just fine.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> Mostafa
> via Faith-talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 10:38 AM
> To: oilofgladness47 at gmail.com
> Subject: [Faith-talk] Refutation and preeminent repudiation to the Zionist
> subjection.
>
>
> Greetings.
>
> It was immediately after my post that I have got ranging responses, from
> considering my scrutiny irrelevant to inconsistently comparing sacred
> translations with the constant transmission of terrestrial disciplines 
> such
> as Astronomy, Ecology, Mathematics, and other related scientific branches.
>
> The one who incorrectly posed this inconsistent analogy should have known
> that physical science is the study of the physical and natural world using
> theoretical models and data from experiments or observation.
>
> But sacred text is not based on that.
>
> Sacred text is based on divine legitimacy and reliability.
>
> Furthermore, physical science is temporal, and it constantly evolves as 
> new
> discovery and scientific developments unfold.
>
> Whilst in addition, sacred text is unaltered, it is not edited, motified,
> nor even recontextualized.
>
>  I reserve the right to criticize any form of belief, as long as I am
> devoting my arguments to enlightening propositions, and that does not mean 
> I
> am doubtful of my faith, it is basically preposterous for someone to think
> so.
>
> Well, someone is certainly pitiful enough to delude himself with such
> miserably absurd illusions.
>
>          Now, we are back again to verbally defy the plain obstinacy of
> guarding aggression and transgression.
>
> The Constitution of the United States is the most honorable constitution 
> in
> the world.
>
> It strictly prohibits ethnic cleansing, mass murder, suppression, 
> subjection
> and military strikes on civil targets.
>
> I am not flattering Americans though, I am basically uttering the truth.
>
> I distinctly honor and respect the humanrights principles which the U.S
> Constitution strongly affirms and it is based on that.
>
> The U.S constitution recognizes people equal before the supreme law, and 
> it
> does not opt anyone on either racial, ethnic or religious superiority
> complex.
>
>  Well unfortunately, there are some minors who considers themselves crème
> de la crème, they consider themselves eminent, even beyond the
> constitutional principles, and they think that an insect in New York is
> worthful than a human being in Gaza.
>
> Those who devote themselves to such abominable attitude are not humans,
> although they look like humans, but they think and act like devilish
> species.
>
> They viciously belong to  mephistophelean species because of their radical
> arrogance and cruelty.
>
> I emphasize again as I have done many times before, Original sin in Islam 
> is
> not reprobating Adam and Eve for eating from the forbidden tree, it is
> rather acting in pride and arrogance.
>
> This is the resentment  of Lucifer who is the chief adversary  of 
> cynicism.
>
> He is demonized to eternal damnation because of his radical arrogance and
> bigotry.
>
>  Pro Israel supporters and their allies consider themselves the highest of
> high, the chosen people, the children of God, and therefore, anyone who
> opposes them is not a human, and he is worth it for a shoot.
>
> We will never bow down to their oppressive authority, defiance should
> persist, and we ultimately shall prevail.
>
> I will make sure to pass my defying sentiment to a broader scale, so we 
> will
> uninterruptedly pressure on Israel and its pro allies on international
> scope, until we force them to decease using the force to bow Palestinians
> down.
>
> As President Anwar el-Sadat said;
>
> "What was taken by force is never regained by rather than force".
>
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