[Faith-talk] Refutation and preeminent repudiation to theZionist subjection.

Mon Jul 21 11:08:16 UTC 2014

Here is something that Mostafa probably already knows, but perhaps other 
readers don't, and that is that Aramaic is a colloquial form of Hebrew or 
perhaps one could use the word "dialect." Also, and this should be kept in 
mind, Aramaic, Hebrew and Arabic are Semitic languages, going back to the 
same root.  As one example, the word for peace in Hebrew is "shalom," 
whereas the same word in Arabic is "salaam." Am I right? Mostafa would 
agree.  Paul
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mostafa Almahdy via Faith-talk" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "Poppa Bear" <heavens4real at gmail.com>
Cc: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
<faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Refutation and preeminent repudiation to 
theZionist subjection.

MR. Bear, I can barely bear your enormous nescience.

This is also known as sophism.

I will not respond to such fallacious allegations.

I basically wanted you to scientifically verify the perfection of the
biblical translation that you hold and regard as inerrant.

I apologize for asking you to do this.

It seams that I have asked for something far away from your humble 
competency.

I did not expect you to unintelligently extrapolate the scrutiny.

Therefore, I attempted to remind you that we are particularly
scrutinizing the authenticity of the transmission  of a sacred text
called the Bible.

This Bible is translated from languages that we cannot have access to
in our contemporary age, these languages are basically extinct, or at
least, they are unused by laymen people in our modern age.

Jesus peace be upon him spoke Aramaic  and so his disciples did.

But your English edition of the controversial parables is brought from
Ancient Greek, whilst the Old Testament is brought from Ancient
Hebrew, and they both are virtually nonextant, their manuscripts are
not exposed to the public arena, unless for handful of specialized
scholars.

I am quite taken aback of your imbecilic induction.

Without fallaciously attempting to malignly doubt my faith, nor
attempting to indecisively assault me with insignificant allegations,
I wholeheartedly encourage you to go and commence a thorough research
on the subject.

Of course, the word of God is inerrant and utterly perpetual.

But, we are particularly talking about what God revealed, not about
what people translated with their own additions, omissions, textual
alteration and deliberate distortion of the text.

As I just articulated, do not take my absurd statements as truthful,
consider them as deceitful, conditionally with presenting your
critical evidence.

But I am afraid, ranting and personal assaults are not fit to do the job.

Peace and blessings, Mostafa.

On 7/20/14, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Mustafa, I was talking about the ability to gather accurately the
> transmitted data from cultures throughout history in any field of study
> related to a written text, that truth is still a reality regardless of
> whether or not you like to pick and choose the best words of elocution to
> try and prove your points. This was called sophistry in ancient days and I
> think you have acquired a formidable ability to execute it in your
> arguments. You do indeed dismiss anything that does not fit your argument
> even if it is   valid, you will still take an arbitrary direction and 
> avoid
> the points of any person who responds to you. You keep fighting against 
> the
> Bible and making your various arguments, but I know that the living God is
> able to defend his word just fine.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Mostafa
> via Faith-talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 10:38 AM
> To: oilofgladness47 at gmail.com
> Subject: [Faith-talk] Refutation and preeminent repudiation to the Zionist
> subjection.
>
>
> Greetings.
>
> It was immediately after my post that I have got ranging responses, from
> considering my scrutiny irrelevant to inconsistently comparing sacred
> translations with the constant transmission of terrestrial disciplines 
> such
> as Astronomy, Ecology, Mathematics, and other related scientific branches.
>
> The one who incorrectly posed this inconsistent analogy should have known
> that physical science is the study of the physical and natural world using
> theoretical models and data from experiments or observation.
>
> But sacred text is not based on that.
>
> Sacred text is based on divine legitimacy and reliability.
>
> Furthermore, physical science is temporal, and it constantly evolves as 
> new
> discovery and scientific developments unfold.
>
> Whilst in addition, sacred text is unaltered, it is not edited, motified,
> nor even recontextualized.
>
>    I reserve the right to criticize any form of belief, as long as I am
> devoting my arguments to enlightening propositions, and that does not mean
> I
> am doubtful of my faith, it is basically preposterous for someone to think
> so.
>
> Well, someone is certainly pitiful enough to delude himself with such
> miserably absurd illusions.
>
>            Now, we are back again to verbally defy the plain obstinacy of
> guarding aggression and transgression.
>
> The Constitution of the United States is the most honorable constitution 
> in
> the world.
>
> It strictly prohibits ethnic cleansing, mass murder, suppression,
> subjection
> and military strikes on civil targets.
>
> I am not flattering Americans though, I am basically uttering the truth.
>
> I distinctly honor and respect the humanrights principles which the U.S
> Constitution strongly affirms and it is based on that.
>
> The U.S constitution recognizes people equal before the supreme law, and 
> it
> does not opt anyone on either racial, ethnic or religious superiority
> complex.
>
>    Well unfortunately, there are some minors who considers themselves 
> crème
> de la crème, they consider themselves eminent, even beyond the
> constitutional principles, and they think that an insect in New York is
> worthful than a human being in Gaza.
>
> Those who devote themselves to such abominable attitude are not humans,
> although they look like humans, but they think and act like devilish
> species.
>
> They viciously belong to  mephistophelean species because of their radical
> arrogance and cruelty.
>
> I emphasize again as I have done many times before, Original sin in Islam
> is
> not reprobating Adam and Eve for eating from the forbidden tree, it is
> rather acting in pride and arrogance.
>
> This is the resentment  of Lucifer who is the chief adversary  of 
> cynicism.
>
> He is demonized to eternal damnation because of his radical arrogance and
> bigotry.
>
>    Pro Israel supporters and their allies consider themselves the highest
> of
> high, the chosen people, the children of God, and therefore, anyone who
> opposes them is not a human, and he is worth it for a shoot.
>
> We will never bow down to their oppressive authority, defiance should
> persist, and we ultimately shall prevail.
>
> I will make sure to pass my defying sentiment to a broader scale, so we
> will
> uninterruptedly pressure on Israel and its pro allies on international
> scope, until we force them to decease using the force to bow Palestinians
> down.
>
> As President Anwar el-Sadat said;
>
> "What was taken by force is never regained by rather than force".
>
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