[Faith-talk] Refutation and preeminent repudiation totheZionistsubjection.

Poppa Bear heavens4real at gmail.com
Tue Jul 29 21:39:18 UTC 2014


Keep in mind, some people are uncomfortable around people with disabilities
and do not always know how to react. A lot of times they are nervous and
just clam up. I know that in my City there are only a small hand full of
blind people, I may run into a blind person once every three or four years,
if that. 

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From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kendra.
Schaber via Faith-talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 1:29 PM
To: Jenny Keller; Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Refutation and preeminent repudiation
totheZionistsubjection.

I can say that it's also true for blind people in general, no mater the
religion of any blind person. I hate it when I'm at the bus mall in Salem,
Oregon and I go to ask what bus I'm next to when the people I ask totally
ignores me. It also happens to my Christian friends who are also blind. Just
throwing it out there to deminstrate that faith isn't the whole picture. I
have better respect in the word as a Pagan than I have had as a blind
person. With that said, look at it and ask the question. Is it my blindness
or my religion? If it is blindness, use those laws to back you up and make a
stand that way. If it's religion, then use those laws to back you up. Either
way, we all have our right to be respected. In a pinch, I have had best luck
whenever I have asked for respect that I would request respect in retourn. 
Kendra 


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> On Jul 25, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Jenny Keller via Faith-talk
<faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi again,
> No I'm late on this subject. But the Catholic Church I know because I was
one. Has an issue with that. So do a lot of other churches that show things
on the screen that we can't do it.
> The Catholic seven Oakrill him panel. They have no desire sometimes to
even get away for someone who's disabled to the choir loft.
> It's sad because we are people of faith all face.
> 
> Sorry I'm dictating this. Having to catch up on a lot. But, what I meant
to say was there is no braille hymnals. Anyway, it's all churches. Not just
the Catholic Church. However, I have found. And I'm not to jilted Catholic.
That they're the worst. Are one of the worst.
> 
> I guess my point is. That all of us have to face persecution or people 
> that don't want to help us. No matter what church we go to. So, it's 
> make the best of things :-) Jenny
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 20, 2014, at 9:36 AM, debby phillips via Faith-talk
<faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Ashley, I think your topic is right on.  How does blindness affect
our faith? And how does blindness affect how we deal with others of
differing religions? Now, that may sound strange, so read me out.  First of
all, I'll deal with my second question.  There are various cultures and
faiths that view blindness very negatively.  How do people overcome those
obstacles? As a dog user how do I deal with a cab driver who refuses to
allow my dog in his cab because he is Muslim and believes that dogs are
unclean? how do we deal with issues that affect our rights and someone's
freedom of religion? For instance, if a law requires that I do something
that I find reprehensible because of my faith, how do I deal with that?
>> 
>> Then my first question, how does blindness affect my faith? Well, in one
way it does not.  What I believe is in my heart, and I try to live out my
faith every day, showing the love of Jesus to others.  And I want to be of
service to others.  But what happens when people say, You can't do this or
that because of your blindness.  As a Catholic, I wanted to enter a
particular community of nuns.  (This was years ago and now I am married).
But they did not want to have "anyone with handicaps" in their community.
Good luck with that, when members get older and have disabilities.  Churches
in the United States are not required to follow the rules of the ADA.  So
what recourse does a person have? These are topics that I think are
blindness-related, and certainly NFB related.  Thanks for reading.
Blessings,    Debby
>> 
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