[Faith-talk] Following up with your response.
Poppa Bear
heavens4real at gmail.com
Wed Mar 26 16:07:24 UTC 2014
Hello Mustafa, I hope you are doing well. Here is a greater portion of that
section of John you are attempting to exam, perhaps it can be taken in a
brauder context so that the variations of inturpratations you have put on it
can be narrowed down to a more probable meaning. The Amplified version, "
John 1
1IN THE beginning [before all time] was the Word ([1] Christ),
and
the Word was with God, and the Word was God [2] Himself.(1)
2He was present originally with God.
3All things were made and came into existence through Him; and
without Him was not even one thing made that has come into
being.
4In Him was Life, and the Life was the Light of men.
5And the Light shines on in the darkness, for the darkness has
never overpowered it [put it out or absorbed it or
appropriated
it, and is unreceptive to it].
6There came a man sent from God, whose name was John.(2)
7This man came to witness, that he might testify of the Light,
that all men might believe in it [adhere to it, trust it, and
rely
upon it] through him.
8He was not the Light himself, but came that he might bear
witness
regarding the Light.
9There it was--the true Light [was then] coming into the world
[the genuine, perfect, steadfast Light] that illumines every
person.(3)
10He came into the world, and though the world was made
through
Him, the world did not recognize Him [did not know Him].
11He came to that which belonged to Him [to His own--His
domain,
creation, things, world], and they who were His own did not
receive Him and did not welcome Him.
12But to as many as did receive and welcome Him, He gave the
authority (power, privilege, right) to become the children of
God,
that is, to those who believe in (adhere to, trust in, and
rely
on) His name--(4)
13Who owe their birth neither to [3] bloods nor to the will of
the
flesh [that of physical impulse] nor to the will of man [that
of a
natural father], but to God. [They are born of God!]
14And the Word (Christ) became flesh (human, incarnate) and
tabernacled (fixed His tent of flesh, lived awhile) among us;
and
we [actually] saw His glory (His honor, His majesty), such
glory
as an only begotten son receives from his father, full of
grace
(favor, loving-kindness) and truth.(5)
15John testified about Him and cried out, This was He of Whom
I
said, He Who comes after me has priority over me, for He was
before me. [He takes rank above me, for He existed before I
did.
He has advanced before me, because He is my Chief.]
16For out of His fullness (abundance) we have all received
[all
had a share and we were all supplied with] one grace after
another
and spiritual blessing upon spiritual blessing and even favor
upon
favor and gift [heaped] upon gift.
17For while the Law was given through Moses, grace ([4]
unearned,
undeserved favor and spiritual blessing) and truth came
through
Jesus Christ.(6)
18No man has ever seen God at any time; the only unique Son,
or [6] the only begotten God, Who is in the bosom in the
intimate presence of the Father, He has declared Him, He has
revealed Him and brought Him out where He can be seen; He has
interpreted Him and He has made Him known. 19And
this is the testimony of John when the Jews sent priests and
Levites to him from Jerusalem to ask him, Who are you?
20He confessed (admitted the truth) and did not try to conceal
it,
but acknowledged, I am not the Christ!
21They asked him, What then? Are you Elijah? And he said, I am
not! Are you the Prophet? And he answered, No!(8)
22Then they said to him, Who are you? Tell us, so that we may
give
an answer to those who sent us. What do you say about
yourself?
23He said, I am the voice of one crying aloud in the
wilderness
[the voice of one shouting in the desert], Prepare the way of
the
Lord [level, straighten out, the path of the Lord], as the
prophet
Isaiah said.(9)
24The messengers had been sent from the Pharisees.
25And they asked him, Why then are you baptizing if you are
not
the Christ, nor Elijah, nor the Prophet?
26John answered them, I [only] baptize [7] in (with) water.
Among
you there stands One Whom you do not recognize and with Whom
you
are not acquainted and of Whom you know nothing.(10)
27It is He Who, coming after me, is preferred before me, the
string of Whose sandal I am not worthy to unloose.
28These things occurred in Bethany (Bethabara) across the
Jordan
[[8] at the Jordan crossing], where John was then baptizing.
29The next day John saw Jesus coming to him and said, Look!
There
is the Lamb of God, Who takes away the sin of the world!(11)
30This is He of Whom I said, After me comes a Man Who has
priority
over me [Who takes rank above me] because He was before me and
existed before I did.
31And I did not know Him and did not recognize Him [myself];
but
it is in order that He should be made manifest and be revealed
to
Israel [be brought out where we can see Him] that I came
baptizing
[9] in (with) water.
32John gave further evidence, saying, I have seen the Spirit
descending as a dove out of heaven, and it dwelt on Him [never
to
depart].
33And I did not know Him nor recognize Him, but He Who sent me
to
baptize [10] in (with) water said to me, Upon Him Whom you
shall
see the Spirit descend and remain, that One is He Who baptizes
with the Holy Spirit.
34And I have seen [that happen--I actually did see it] and my
testimony is that this is the Son of God!
35Again the next day John was standing with two of his
disciples,
36And he looked at Jesus as He walked along, and said, Look!
There
is the Lamb of God!
37The two disciples heard him say this, and they followed Him.
38But Jesus turned, and as He saw them following Him, He said
to
them, What are you looking for? [And what is it you wish?] And
they answered Him, Rabbi--which translated is Teacher--where
are
You staying?
39He said to them, Come and see. So they went and saw where He
was
staying, and they remained with Him [11] that day. It was then
about the tenth hour (about four o'clock in the afternoon).
40One of the two who heard what John said and followed Jesus
was
Andrew, Simon Peter's brother.
41He first sought out and found his own brother Simon and said
to
him, We have found (discovered) the Messiah!--which translated
is
the Christ (the Anointed One).
"
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From: "Mostafa" <mostafa.almahdy at gmail.com>
To: <jason at calvarymorninglight.org>
Cc: <sarah.jevnikar at sympatico.ca>; <pmikeal at comcast.net>;
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