[Faith-talk] Questioning Our Beliefs

Fri May 16 13:59:30 UTC 2014

re·li·gion  [ri-lij-uhn]
noun
1.
a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of theuniverse, especially when considered as the creation of asuperhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional andritual observances, and often containing a moral code governingthe conduct of human affairs.
2.
a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generallyagreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christianreligion; the Buddhist religion.

Christianity is definitely a religion in every sense of the word.

On May 16, 2014, at 8:36 AM, Andrew via Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hi all i wasn't going to get into the discussion  but i felt i needed
> to say something here.  i know deep down   denomonations never
> excisted  when jesus was on earth as such i could be wrong  but the
> thing i question is this why do we have to have all the denomonations
> that we do in this day in age.   When we stand before jesus on
> judgement day  only thing that will matter is this if we truly  are
> christians or not jesus won't say baptists come over here you
> cathlics come over there  or what ever denomonations there are   and
> having a  all of these denomonations is a human made thing.  you
> either are a follower of christ or are not and we all no where non
> believers go in the end i won't say it  but you get the drift.
> another thing it is not about religion it is and should be about a
> relationship with jesus.  peopkle stop calling it a religion. i  am
> just bothered by the word religion.
> 
> On 5/16/14, Maureen Pranghofer via Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> And we are supposed to be questioned persecuted on the outside the Bible
>> predicts it.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sheila via Faith-talk
>> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 2:31 AM
>> To: justin williams ; Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Questioning Our Beliefs
>> 
>> I don't believe this statement is fair. It's okay if others espouse
>> there views but we as christians shouldn't do that no way is that
>> correct. anyone can and should be able to explain beliefs including
>> those of us that are Christians.
>> On 5/15/2014 3:23 PM, justin williams via Faith-talk wrote:
>>> Are you folks arguing or something; It sounds like Brandon tried to
>>> explain
>>> his belief system on a list which was supposed to be one shared by all
>>> faiths. The Christians have expressed their faith over and over,  slapped
>>> each other on the back and a mened ever sense I've been on this list.
>>> Oh,
>>> and you have also piled onto anyone else who is not saying the exact same
>>> things you espouse.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Poppa
>>> Bear via Faith-talk
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 5:10 PM
>>> To: 'Brandon Olivares'; 'Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and
>>> religion'
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Questioning Our Beliefs
>>> 
>>> Some of this logic cuts itself off at the feet and only goes so far.
>>> There
>>> is a story about an  Indian man who argued that we were all nothing as he
>>> taught a body of seekers, his argument was quite convincing. After the
>>> discussion when he went out and walked across a field a bull started to
>>> charge him and he started to run. One of the people at his talk yelled to
>>> him, "You don't need to run, the bull is really not there and pain is
>>> only
>>> in your mind." That is a belief than can go no further than the mind in
>>> my
>>> opinion, because once we step into the real world, we are faced with
>>> choices
>>> that we put our minds to almost every minute. If you said, "I need to go
>>> to
>>> the bathroom", and I said, that is simply a feeling that is not real,
>>> then
>>> you may think that this philosophy has felled in one small point. But if
>>> it
>>> works for you, then only you know how it fits your way of thinking and if
>>> 
>>> it
>>> is an honest approach to your daily activity, or if you have to separate
>>> your beliefs from your real life.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Brandon
>>> Olivares via Faith-talk
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 12:10 PM
>>> To: Linda Mentink; Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Questioning Our Beliefs
>>> 
>>> I love to question. In my experience, nothing is true.
>>> On May 15, 2014, at 3:53 PM, Linda Mentink via Faith-talk
>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> And God says in His Word, the Bible, that he resisteth the proud, but
>>> gives grace to the humble. Of course, it's fine to question many things,
>>> but
>>> not the Bible and your faith in God, if you have such. If you don't,
>>> that's
>>> good reason to question your beliefs.
>>>> Blessings,
>>>> 
>>>> Linda
>>>> 
>>>> At 02:37 PM 5/15/2014, you wrote:
>>>>> I think that questions can be good, but as a father of 7, I do find
>>>>> that when my children are able to listen without questioning
>>>>> everything I ask
>>> of
>>>>> them it brings a trust, an intimacy that is sometimes tattered by the
>>> twenty
>>>>> questions. As for me, being married, I will often do something for my
>>> wife
>>>>> simply because she asks me, I may think that it is silly, may want to
>>>>> question her reasons, needs and all that, but simply doing, or
>>>>> obeying
>>> does
>>>>> more to create the bond of love and trust that I think a marriage is
>>> built
>>>>> on than being a analytical owl about everything. Also, we will often
>>> pride
>>>>> ourselves on asking questions about something like faith, something
>>>>> that demands a real commitment from us, but we will often swallow
>>>>> whole the garbage in our culture, imitating much of it, desiring much
>>>>> of it, or prematurely condemning it. Interesting stuff.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>> Kirt via Faith-talk
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 11:26 AM
>>>>> To: sheila; Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Questioning Our Beliefs
>>>>> 
>>>>> :-) I, for one, take pride in questioning everything. Even my
>>>>> questions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 15, 2014, at 12:38 PM, sheila via Faith-talk
>>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> hi Linda I am in complete agreement and am not interested in
>>> questioning
>>>>> my beliefs. They are based on the  word of god.
>>>>>>> On 5/15/2014 10:15 AM, Linda Mentink via Faith-talk wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I do not question my beliefs, not since Christ came to live in me.
>>>>>>> The
>>>>> Bible is my Guide for life. I receive many things from it, including
>>>>> comfort, wisdom, assurance that I will spend eternity in heaven, and
>>>>> knowledge of the Triune God.
>>>>>>> Those who say they have accepted Christ as their personal Saviour,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>> still continue to lie, cheat and steal, put too much emphasis on what
>>> they
>>>>> did. They have not repented of these sins, and, consequently, their
>>>>> conversion is not real.
>>>>>>> True Christians abhor sin, and, with God's help, do their best to
>>>>>>> live
>>> a
>>>>> different life than they did before Christ came to live in them. When
>>> they
>>>>> do sin, which all do, they are sorry, and ask God's forgiveness; and,
>>>>> if necessary, and they have sinned against someone, they ask
>>>>> forgiveness of that person. Many who think they are Christians will
>>>>> be surprised when
>>> they
>>>>> meet God, and are turned away from Him to spend eternity in hell with
>>> Satan
>>>>> and his demons.
>>>>>>> Christianity has been around since the beginning of creation.
>>>>>>> Those
>>> who
>>>>> take God at His Word, and accept the free grace and forgiveness He
>>> offers,
>>>>> will spend their life after earthly death in eternity in Heaven with
>>>>> Him.
>>>>> Eastern religions and cults are man-made, and were made up not that
>>>>> long
>>> ago
>>>>> by people who rejected God, didn't know about Him, or wanted to do
>>>>> things their own way--which, I guess, is the same as rejecting God.
>>>>>>> I am sad for those who believe such nonsense, because their end,
>>>>>>> no
>>>>> matter what they say, will be condemnation to the lake of fire, where
>>>>> no relief will be had.
>>>>>>> I don't mean to be harsh or offensive, but that's what the Bible
>>>>>>> says
>>>>> concerning them, and I believe the Bible to be true. It is the
>>>>> inspired
>>> Word
>>>>> of God. All it says will come to pass, if it hasn't already.
>>>>>>> I will not question my beliefs, but will continue to stand on what
>>>>>>> I
>>> know
>>>>> to be true in the Bible.
>>>>>>> Blessings,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Linda
>>>>>>> 
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