[Faith-talk] Daily Thought for Tuesday, May 20, 2014

Tue May 20 21:40:31 UTC 2014

Also, trying so hard to push the Christian faith may have caused
Christianity to lose ground.  I would say that in school, if the beliefs of
the Christian faith can not be espoused, then the same should go with all
the other faiths; it is unfair to do anything else,  however, most of them
in this country don't draw as much attention to themselves so it may happen
that they are allowed to be expressed in situations where a Christian would
be forced to be silent about their religion.  

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Linda,

I think sometimes people go too far, but for an example, why should under
God be in the pledge? It wasn't inserted until the mid 20th century. It was
never there in the beginning.

The rest are particular cases, not actual laws against doing these things,
so far as I know. I don't see how they could restrict praying. It is a
private thing done in your heart. Who can know if I pray or not?

--
Brandon

Blind Adventures: Read about my adventures as a blind person

Facebook: Brandon.Olivares
Twitter: @devbanana

On May 20, 2014, at 4:50 PM, Linda Mentink <mentink at frontiernet.net> wrote:

> Actually, Brandon, God has been taken out of the public schools. Christian
students are not allowed to pray, read their Bibles, wear sweatshirts with
Christian things on them, write reports or give speeches in which God is
mentioned, or have a student-led Christian club. No, I'm not making this up.
In fact, "under God" is left out of the Pledge of Allegiance when it is
recited.
> 
> Nowadays, it's OK to be anything except a Christian.
> 
> Blessings,
> 
> Linda
> 
> At 03:26 PM 5/20/2014, you wrote:
>> I wonder if we may have a respectful discussion about whether what this
article says is truly correct. IMO, "God" hasn't been taken out of schools,
Christianity has. And to me this is a good thing, because we live in a free
nation where people are free to practice whatever religion they desire. I
think this is the beauty of our nation. We don't live in the middle east
where practicing a different religion could get you killed.
>> 
>> We are all free to worship or believe as we like, and I think that is
beautiful. In this one country we have Christians, Jews, Muslims, Atheists,
New-Agers and many others besides. All people should feel comfortable, not
like this country is only for Christians, which it definitely is not.
>> 
>> Just my opinion.
>> 
>> --
>> Brandon
>> 
>> Blind Adventures: Read about my adventures as a blind person
>> 
>> Facebook: Brandon.Olivares
>> Twitter: @devbanana
>> 
>> On May 20, 2014, at 4:15 PM, Paul via Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
>> 
>> > Hello and good day to you all out there.  I hope that, by God's
matchless grace and His providential care, that you are all doing well
today.
>> >
>> > In this article the author is "preaching to the choir," so to speak,
but perhaps you can pass it along to someone who doesn't know Christ,
whether that individual be a relative, personal friend or acquaintance.
Even though we hear about leading someone to Christ, it is the work of the
Holy Spirit that actually causes one to accept Him as their personal Lord
and Savior.  The author's name is not given, but this contribution is from a
publication called "The Tract League." The article in question is entitled
"Blessed Is The Nation," rendered as follows:
>> >
>> > God isn't welcome in our public schools these days--not until our next
crisis.
>> >
>> > Trouble does that to people.  When security or health is threatened, we
turn to God for help.
>> >
>> > When good times return, we ignore God.
>> >
>> > The Bible says this pattern has been in place ever since people lived.
We avoid God until we are in trouble.  The Bible has a word for that.  It's
called sin.
>> >
>> > We ignore God and His commandments at our peril.  Most of the nation's
problems are rooted in our choice to ignore God and His desires and how we
should live.
>> >
>> > The Bible says that God is going to have the last word on our nation.
He will destroy us if we continue in our sin.  The Bible clearly shows that
He has done it to many other nations throughout history.
>> >
>> > God longs for us to repent, to turn from our selfishness, and to follow
Him in obedience.  This is the path to blessing.
>> >
>> > When we seek Him in good times and bad, He never turns away.  In His
mercy, He has provided a solution to our personal and national sin.  He sent
His only Son, Jesus, to take the judgment for our sin upon Himself so that
everyone who repents and trusts in Him has his sins washed clean.
>> >
>> > When we put our trust in God, we learn how to govern ourselves, our
families, and our nation.  We learn what it is to be blessed.  The Bible
says:  "Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord" (Psalm 33:12).
>> >
>> > If you are ready to submit to God's desires for you and your family,
use this prayer to tell Him.
>> >
>> > "Dear God, forgive me and forgive our nation for trying to live without
You.  I accept and believe that Your Son, Jesus Christ, paid the penalty for
all my sins.  I repent of my sins and ask that You will help me to follow
Your desires for personal, family, and national life. Amen."
>> >
>> > If you want to learn more about God's desires for you, read the Gospel
of John, talk to a Christian, and visit a Bible-teaching church.  You will
be warmly welcomed.
>> >
>> > And there you have this article, short and elementary as it is.
>> >
>> > The author mentioned that God will destroy nations.  A graphic
illustration of this in modern times took place on October 17, 1994.  While
God's direct intervention did not destroy a nation outright, He made it very
plain that the activity taking place in a particular area of the world, and
in particular the U.S., was not acceptable to Him.  For on that day, at
approximately 5:30 a.m. local time, an earthquake struck parts of southern
California, particularly centering on three communities, only two of which I
can remember:  Northridge and Canoga Park.  Many people thought this was a
tragedy until it was brought out in the "Orange County Register," the main
publication in this area, that these three communities had the main
publishing companies for pornographic material.  Did the earthquake stamp it
out altogether? By no means; in fact I wouldn't be surprised if those
publishers weren't back in business before too long a time delay.  But the
fact remained that, with God showing His displeasure in the form of an
earthquake, that He did not approve of such activity.  So, if it could
happen there it could happen anywhere.
>> >
>> > Before I close for today, here is the answer to Sunday's Bible game.
It was Hosea 14.  If you still have the poem in your inbox, I would suggest
that you read Hosea 14 alongside the poem and see how well both of them
harmonize.
>> >
>> > And now may the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob just keep us safe, 
>> > individually and collectively, in these last days in which we live.  
>> > Lord willing, tomorrow there will be another Daily Thought message 
>> > for you.  Your Christian friend and brother, Paul 
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