[Faith-talk] the blind jesus

Ashley Bramlett via Faith-talk faith-talk at nfbnet.org
Fri May 23 19:03:40 UTC 2014


Sheila,
good post. it takes advocacy. no one can do it for you. I guess services are 
lacking in canada but surely andrew could find some role model along with 
seeing a psychotherapist.

Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: sheila via Faith-talk
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 2:17 PM
To: Andrew ; Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] the blind jesus

I don't know all of the circumstances in your life but, I do know that
my life didn't become what I wanted it to be until I started to really
stand up for myself and my right to be treated like a person with
thoughts and feelings and not just the woman with the dog or cane.
People don't want to be around negativity. People haven't walked in our
shoes as blind folks and expecting them to always understand isn't
reasonable. God's grace is always suffinient even if we can't see it
right now. Blindness is a part of my life bot all of my life.
On 5/23/2014 7:52 AM, Andrew via Faith-talk wrote:
> Hi all just wanted to post an article here from somebody else as it
> explaines exactly how i been feeling. and let me tell you right now
> that  you can't except way i feel then that is just to bad it will
> show just how judgemental  some people are to me and how supportive
> people  actually are.  anyway hear is the article.
>
>                 The Blind Jesus
>
>                          the Identity Of Christ Is You
>
>
>                                 By Phil Scovell
>
>
>       Warning.
>
>       Author's Note.   This testimony contains offensive language.   If 
> such
>       bothers you as a Christian, don't read passed this point.  If you 
> want
>       to  hear the  truth, read  on.   The  particular language  is  used 
> to
>       demonstrate the level of frustration people experience.  Therefore, 
> it
>       is representative in nature and not actual.  The rest is up to you.
>
>       End of author's note.
>
>
>
>            Recently I was  praying with a lady, by the name  of Mari, who 
> is
>       blind.   I'm blind, too, so this normally  doesn't have anything to 
> do
>       with the prayer sessions.  However, blind people, and those with 
> other
>       disabilities,   forgive  me  for   using  the  term   disability, 
> are
>       perpetually faced with blind related  issues which refuses to let 
> them
>       think of themselves as  normal.  What do I mean?   Well, let's say 
> you
>       need to go to  the grocery store because  you are out of milk, 
> bread,
>       and Frosted Mini Wheats.   So you get on the horn and  call 25 of 
> your
>       best friends,  if you have that many, and you  get a lot of no 
> answers
>       and a boat load of excuses  and even one friend who says they  will 
> do
>       it but  you'll have  to wait until  next Thursday  before they  can 
> go
>       because their car is in the shop.  Of course, you know they have 
> three
>       cars but  you let  that one  go.  Then  you break  down and  call 
> your
>       family  members but they  rarely want to  help in the  first place 
> and
>       they always  say no anyhow.   They did  this time,  too, but one 
> also
>       added that  you should be  a better planner  and keep track  of 
> things
>       more  efficiently.   Nothing new  here,  of course,  because your 
> mom
>       always says  that and usually  one of your sisters,  too.  You  let 
> it
>       slide.   This  is all  understandable,  you've been  told by 
> experts,
>       normally who aren't blind themselves, so you can't blame your 
> friends,
>       and God only knows you can't  blame your own family, but, dad  gum 
> it,
>       you've got to blame somebody and you  can't blame yourself, for 
> crying
>       out loud, so you have only one thing left; your blindness.  After 
> all,
>       you are  truly blind; right?  So it has to be because of your 
> freaking
>       blindness.  For that matter, if  you weren't blind, you could, if 
> you
>       had enough gasoline left in the tank, run  right down to the old 
> store
>       and buy  the things you need  for breakfast.   Even if you are  out 
> of
>       gas,  you could walk, if  the store isn't far  away, so what's the 
> big
>       deal?  The big deal is your damn  blindness and it has been a big 
> deal
>       all your miserable freaking  life.  You can never forget  that you 
> are
>       blind because  things keep reminding  you, including people,  that 
> you
>       are blind.  Bumping your head, tripping over your kid's, or 
> grandkid's
>       tricycle they never put  up, stepping over, and falling over,  the 
> dog
>       or cat,  receiving a registered  letter, or  a court  summons and 
> not
>       having any sighted people  around to tell you what the hell it is 
> for,
>       taking  a  dump and  wondering if  you  are bleeding  from  the 
> rectum
>       because your hemorrhoids  hurt like somebody is squeezing  them with 
> a
>       pair of  pliers, waking up in the morning  and discovering one of 
> your
>       false eyes is missing, or you
>       have misplaced your false  teeth, or discovering you had  a nose 
> bleed
>       during the night and  there is nobody to  see if you got blood  on 
> the
>       snow white waterbed sheets you paid 130  bucks for, going to work 
> with
>       two   totally  different  color   shoes,  brushing  your   teeth 
> with
>       Preparation H,  unable to  find your tampons  box, sticking  a 
> toasted
>       marsh mellow in your from  you just roasted over a cook out  fire 
> only
>       to discover a honey bee has landed on it and it stings the crap out 
> of
>       you, bumping your  face on the cardoor  window as you climb  into 
> your
>       friend's vehicle on the way to church  so everybody at church wants 
> to
>       know what happened to your bruised  face, picking up a cold snake 
> the
>       dogs dragged into  your kitchen, thinking  it's dead, only to  find 
> it
>       isn't,  drinking out of someone  else's glass at  the church pot 
> luck,
>       entering the wrong gender public restroom, being targeted at church 
> by
>       some  concerned parishioner  and  asked how  you  got pregnant, 
> being
>       denied a room on a second floor of  a hotel because blind people 
> can't
>       walk up and down stairs, getting  off on the wrong floor and 
> entering
>       the  wrong  doctor's  office,  sitting  down on  the  couch  to 
> watch
>       television only to suddenly discover one of your kids left his 
> monster
>       truck right where  you sat down, wearing two  different colored 
> socks,
>       two different styles  of cowboy boots, discovering your  dog pooped 
> in
>       the middle of  the living room right  after company has come  to 
> visit
>       and they pointed it out to  you, having someone at church indicate 
> to
>       you that you didn't eat  a remaining morsel of  food on your plate 
> so
>       they stick it on  your fork and  shove it into your  mouth for you 
> in
>       front of  everybody, and I  could add at  least another 300  things 
> to
>       this short list.  The bottom line is being reminded of your 
> blindness.
>       Now, some blind  people say this isn't  a problem and they  never 
> have
>       such thoughts.  These are blind people never  to be trusted.  It 
> could
>       also be that they  are young but God help  you if you are around 
> them
>       once they get  over 50 years  of age.  What  does all this have  to 
> do
>       with prayer?  Let me explain.
>
>            As I said, I was praying recently  with a lady who is blind. 
> Her
>       blindness, mixed  in with all  the other things  she has faced  in 
> her
>       life, felt as  if it were getting the  best of her.  Since  I, too, 
> am
>       blind, I understood the feelings she was facing.  I know what it 
> feels
>       like never to have anybody from  your church call you, let alone 
> come
>       and visit you, and I know what it feels like at church, when 
> everybody
>       shakes hands  with everybody  else but you  during the  greeting 
> song.
>       Oh, it  has absolutely nothing to  do with your  blindness, of 
> course,
>       but  people just  are busy  and they  overlook things.    Yeah, 
> that's
>       right.   That's what it is alright.   A chicken has lips, too.  I 
> know
>       what it feels like  to be lonely.  Not lonely because you don't have 
> a
>       friend to call  or go visit but  because your blind.   I know what 
> it
>       feels like  to be standing  in a  group of perhaps  a dozen  men 
> after
>       church, everyone talking to each other,  and soon they all drift 
> away
>       without a  single soul even saying hello to you.   I've set in 
> circles
>       of  men at pot luck dinners on  the church grounds and watch every 
> man
>       eventually get up and leave  without saying one word to  me.  I was 
> a
>       deacon in  this same church and had preached  in this same church 
> many
>       times so don't tell me they didn't know me.  I take  that back. 
> Maybe
>       they did.  You see, one time I was sitting in the auditorium where 
> the
>       head pastor had about 150  people come to his Sunday school 
> teaching.
>       My wife and I got there early.  My wife went with someone, probably 
> to
>       the bathroom, and  soon a man  sat down  next to me  before the 
> class
>       began.  "Hello, sir," he said.  My name is Frank."
>
>            I stuck  out my hand, shook his, and said," Hi Frank.  My name 
> is
>       Phil Scovell.  Nice to meet you."
>
>            We talked for a couple of  minutes and one thing and another 
> and
>       finally Frank said, "I  don't believe I've seen you hear before, 
> Phil.
>       Have you been coming here long?"
>
>            "Only 13 years," I said with a sigh wondering if I should ask 
> him
>       if  this was  his  first Sunday  or  what?   I didn't.    Yes, he 
> was
>       surprised.   I  hope he felt  stupid, too,  but I give  him credit; 
> at
>       least he said hello.   As it turned out, he  was assigned to meet 
> the
>       new people who came  to the class so what  he was doing was his 
> class
>       participation appointment  and far from  natural.  I had  been in 
> this
>       particular Sunday school class for a year so I have no idea where 
> this
>       guy  had been all that time.  I  mean, it is sort of difficult to 
> miss
>       two blind people  every Sunday coming in with white canes.  Unless 
> you
>       are blind yourself, of course, but I digress.
>
>            I also know what it is like to lose friends because they 
> discover
>       you disagree with them on something in the Scriptures.  I've lost 
> five
>       close  friends, four of them pastors, over this very type of issue. 
> I
>       know what it is like not to be accepted by your own family because 
> you
>       are blind.
>
>            One day I called my  oldest sister just a block  away.  It was 
> a
>       Sunday  afternoon.   I asked  what she was  doing.   At this  time, 
> my
>       youngest  sister was  living with  our  older sister  because she 
> was
>       between marriages.  "Oh, we are just trying to fix a dumb kitchen 
> sink
>       but we can't get it," my sister confirmed.
>
>            "What's wrong with the sink?" I asked.
>
>            "Oh, nothing.  You couldn't fix  it any way.  It's just  going 
> to
>       be busted till  we can afford a  plumber to come  in here and that 
> is
>       going to be a long time because neither of us have any money."
>
>            "What is wrong with the sink?" I said a second time.
>
>            "Oh, nothing."
>
>            "Describe it to me," I insisted.
>
>            She did.  I said, "I can fix that."
>
>            "Oh, no,   It is  broken for good.   It'll take a  plumber at 
> 100
>       dollars an hour to fix it.  Thanks anyway."
>
>            I told my sister that I had just fixed the exact same problem 
> all
>       by myself  with my own kitchen sink and it works fine and there are 
> no
>       more leaks."
>
>            She almost believed me.
>
>            "I'll  walk right down  there.  Do  you need any  other parts?" 
> I
>       asked.
>
>            "No, we  have everything but  don't bother,  Phil.   I'll get 
> it
>       fixed.   I'll call one of the  men in the church and  get them to 
> come
>       over."
>
>            "I'm leaving  the house now  so I'll  be there in  five 
> minutes."
>       She was still talking when I put the phone down.
>
>            MY oldest sun, he  wasn't driving yet, and I walked  the block 
> to
>       my  sisters.  When I arrived,  we went into the  kitchen.  It was 
> only
>       the goose neck.   It looked identical to mine I had  just replaced. 
> I
>       got under the sink,  put everything together, shoot, even a  blind 
> man
>       could  do it, and within five  minutes, everything was back to 
> normal.
>       My sisters were amazed.  I went home thinking that my sisters 
> probably
>       went  through things  like that dozens  of times when  they could 
> have
>       just called  their dumb ass blind  brother to ask him for  help. 
> They
>       never did.  They still don't.
>
>            All of  this has been  said simply to  explain I know  what 
> being
>       blind is really like.  If you meat a dishonest blind person, they 
> will
>       deny these things  bother them.  If that  is so, good for  them, but 
> I
>       for one  never wish  blindness on  anybody.   So, back  to the 
> prayer
>       session.  I'm sorry I keep getting sidetracked.
>
>            We prayed into some  similar issues, but  in short, she was 
> just
>       tired of being blind.   This provides a golden opportunity  for 
> demons
>       to attempt to gain handholds, then possible footholds, and 
> ultimately,
>       strongholds, in  our lives.   What we  are facing is  normal 
> emotional
>       responses   to   every   day   natural   experiences  of 
> frustrating
>       circumstances, but the Enemy never plays fair.   So, if a lying 
> spirit
>       is around,  this makes it  easy for him.   "Yeah, nobody  really 
> likes
>       you.  Remember school?   The kids never  liked you and they were 
> even
>       blind themselves.  You don't  have a chance.   No one from the 
> church
>       ever calls or comes  over and even if  they do make plans to  come 
> and
>       see you,  they cancel,  or worse,  they just  never show.   It's 
> your
>       blindness alright.  Of  course, there are  other things, too, and 
> you
>       know what I am talking about.  Why, if those people at church knew 
> the
>       things you had done,  they'd never like you.   Why don't you  just 
> get
>       drunk.  Oh, I know you haven't had anything to drink for 20 years 
> but
>       now  sure would be a good time to start  up again.  Say, I bet some 
> of
>       your old  contacts have  some dope you  could score.   Yeah,  let's 
> do
>       that.  You  know how good you felt  stoned.  Let's do  that. 
> Besides,
>       just once  won't hurt  anything.   Those people  really  did like 
> you
>       anyhow.  These Christian people  have proved they don't because, 
> after
>       all, you are  blind.  Remember?"   this scenario could be  expanded 
> to
>       include hundreds of variables  and other possibilities, blind or 
> not,
>       and often  it works.  This time, it  didn't because we prayed 
> together
>       in agreement and let Jesus into the picture.
>
>            Within a  few seconds  of praying, she  was in  school.   She 
> was
>       little and  everybody seemed  to  move away  from her  and she 
> didn't
>       understand why.  A  lying spirit whispered into her  thoughts and 
> told
>       her a bunch of lies that sounded logically to her little  girl's 
> mind.
>       She felt sad.
>
>            Suddenly, and  this rarely  happens to me,  I saw  Jesus 
> standing
>       across the room from the little girl  who was all by herself.  He 
> was
>       wearing sunglasses and carrying a  white cane which he was  tapping 
> in
>       front  of him  as if he  couldn't see  where he  was going.   I 
> nearly
>       laughed out loud but didn't.   Jesus surely looked comical doing 
> that,
>       though.   That was  one of  his Intents.   I  said nothing  during 
> the
>       prayer session about what I spiritually saw as we prayed.
>
>            Near  the end  of our  short prayer  session, lying  spirits 
> were
>       gathered up  and dismissed  from their  lying assignments  against 
> the
>       little girl.  A tremendously strong feeling came over me, as I 
> prayed,
>       to command the  lying spirits to go  blind since they used  the 
> little
>       girl's blindness against her to make her feel bad.  I didn't because 
> I
>       didn't want to suggest anything to the woman and spiritually 
> misdirect
>       her healing  experience with the Lord.  This was Jesus at work and 
> not
>       me.
>
>            The woman began laughing.  "What's so funny?" I asked quietly.
>
>            "A hammer came  into view and broke  something that looks  like 
> a
>       clay pot.   It shattered and all these bug like looking things 
> spilled
>       out.  Jesus is gathering them all  up,"  More laughter.  "They are 
> all
>       blind.  Phil!  They are blind.  I am not kidding.  They are all 
> blind.
>       I can tell.  They can't see where they are going and Jesus is 
> sweeping
>       them down  a long  glass tubing that  goes down  for miles  and 
> miles.
>       They try and cling  to the sides but  it is too slippery and  they 
> are
>       falling."  Silence.  "They are all gone now."   Her voice even 
> sounded
>       clear whereas  before, it  was depressed and  filled with  sadness 
> and
>       frustration.
>
>            "Does this really happen?"
>
>            No.   I'm making the  whole thing up.  I  like fooling people 
> and
>       misleading  them.  So  don't ever call  me because I'll  fool you 
> into
>       thinking all  types of  weird things, too.   "Besides,  this can't 
> be
>       Jesus doing this  stuff.  He doesn't do this type of healing any 
> more,
>       does he?"  It sounds like to me that you have your theology screwed 
> on
>       backwards just a little bit.  Does  Jesus identify Himself with you 
> in
>       impossible and painful situations you  experience as a Christian? 
> No?
>       Oh, really?  Why  not?  Can't you see Jesus in your  life?  Doesn't 
> He
>       care about  you and  what you  face?   You  see, this  was the 
> second
>       purpose Jesus  had in  mind which He  wanted this lady  to 
> experience,
>       that is, His true identity, with her  and in her, as what she faces 
> as
>       one  of His children.  Remember the  first?  He wanted to show 
> Himself
>       and demonstrate the buffoonery of  the enemy and expose his 
> stupidity,
>       while at  the same time, demonstrating His superiority in our lives 
> as
>       Jesus our  Lord.  Is He the  Lord of your life or  did you just 
> accept
>       Him as your Savior?  Do you only have half of Jesus or did you get 
> Him
>       all at the moment of your salvation?   If the Enemy is still 
> torturing
>       you, Jesus isn't Lord.  To whom do you turn when you feel bad?  If 
> you
>       identify with  Jesus, He will  identify with you.   Even if  you 
> don't
>       identify with Him, He will still identify with you.  In such case, 
> you
>       may not recognize His presence but He is there because He said He 
> was.
>       Remember where you heard i
>
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