[Faith-talk] halow wean part one of two

Brandon A. Olivares programmer2188 at gmail.com
Sun Oct 19 01:19:47 UTC 2014 

So magic isn’t real, but it is evil and Satan can use it? Which is it exactly?

> On Oct 18, 2014, at 8:22 PM, Andrew via Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> well  magic of any kind  is not good and there is no such thing as
> magic at all.  and also there are things that people shouldn't do
> because doing these certain things just invite satan and open the
> doors to satan.  also  satan is a very real enemy and  if we don't
> have the armer of god  we are basically in trouble.  and jesus was
> born and christ is real to me as he is to any other true christian.
> and i don't think it was december 22 but  jesus truly is alive  now
> and ias ever and he  he is the only way truth and life.
> 
> On 10/18/14, Kendra Schafer <redwing731 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Andrew!
>> Here is a good brain thinker for you. If you met a practissioner of Whicca,
>> known as a Witch, knew that he or she practiced magic but only used it to
>> make the world a better place. Do you think that the Christian God would
>> send him or her to Hell for making the world a better place? Why do you
>> think Halloween should be called evil? Halloween isn't any more eviler than
>> any one who makes the world a better place no matter how they do it or than
>> any other hollidays. One of my Christian friends married another Christian
>> who turned out to be eviler than any Pagan that she has ever met. They are
>> now devorced. Well anyway, my point is that  Halloween isn't any eviler than
>> Christmas. If you don't like Halloween, don't celebrate it. You can complain
>> about Halloween all day long but that won't stop others from celebrating it.
>> 
>> Kendra
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 18, 2014, at 3:53 PM, Andrew via Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> halow wean is a big issue it sure is and  people should not be going
>>> door to door looking for candy and things like that.  halow wean is of
>>> satan and those who  go out and do this scary stuff and  dress up and
>>> things  like ghosts goblins and things are pretty much
>>> inviting satan we can't leave open doors for the devil to  sneak
>>> right in  he seeks to kill and destroy.
>>>> On 10/18/14, RJ Sandefur via Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> That is what our church is doing! Halloween isn't the issue...
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "justin williams via Faith-talk" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> To: "'Andrew'" <andrewjedg at gmail.com>; "'Faith-talk,for the discussion
>>>> of
>>>> faith and religion'" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 6:34 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] halow wean part one of two
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Most of the churches and Christians Around here, even deep in to the
>>>>> heart
>>>>> of the bible belt, right here in Columbia south Carolina celebrate
>>>>> Halloween. One thing they do is called trick or trunk. It is when the
>>>>> kids
>>>>> at the churches go around to the different parents at their vehicles
>>>>> and
>>>>> get
>>>>> candy.
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>> Andrew
>>>>> via Faith-talk
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 6:24 PM
>>>>> To: Faith-talk
>>>>> Subject: [Faith-talk] halow wean part one of two
>>>>> 
>>>>> Halloween - Part 1 of 2
>>>>> 
>>>>> Should Christians celebrate Halloween? No! What the world will
>>>>> celebrate
>>>>> on
>>>>> October 31 is not anything that a Christian should be part of. The
>>>>> origin
>>>>> 
>>>>> of
>>>>> what we know of as Halloween began in 5th century B.C., Celtic Ireland
>>>>> as
>>>>> 
>>>>> a
>>>>> holiday marking the end of summer on October 31 known as Samhein
>>>>> (sow-en).
>>>>> 
>>>>> The pagan Celts believed on that day, the disembodied spirits of all
>>>>> those
>>>>> who had died throughout the preceding year would come back in search of
>>>>> living bodies to possess for the next year. It was believed to be their
>>>>> only
>>>>> hope for the afterlife. The Celts believed all laws of space and time
>>>>> were
>>>>> suspended during this time, allowing the spirit world to intermingle
>>>>> with
>>>>> the living.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Naturally, the still living did not want to be possessed. So on the
>>>>> night
>>>>> of October 31, villagers would extinguish the fires in their homes, to
>>>>> make
>>>>> them cold and undesirable. They would then dress up in all manner of
>>>>> ghoulish costumes and noisily paraded around the neighborhood, being as
>>>>> destructive as possible in order to frighten away spirits looking for
>>>>> bodies
>>>>> to possess.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Romans adopted the Celtic practices as their own. But in the first
>>>>> century A.D., Samhain was assimilated into celebrations of some of the
>>>>> other
>>>>> Roman traditions that took place in October, such as their day to honor
>>>>> Pomona, the Roman goddess of fruit and trees. The symbol of Pomona is
>>>>> the
>>>>> apple, which might explain the origin of our modern tradition of
>>>>> bobbing
>>>>> for
>>>>> apples on Halloween. The thrust of the practices also changed over time
>>>>> to
>>>>> become more ritualized. As belief in spirit possession waned, the
>>>>> practice
>>>>> of dressing up like hobgoblins, ghosts, and witches took on a more
>>>>> ceremonial role.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The custom of Halloween was brought to America in the 1840's by Irish
>>>>> immigrants fleeing their country's potato famine. At that time, the
>>>>> favorite
>>>>> pranks in New England included tipping over outhouses and unhinging
>>>>> fence
>>>>> gates.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since the eighth century, the Catholic Church has celebrated All
>>>>> Saints'
>>>>> Day on November 1 to celebrate the known and unknown Saints whom the
>>>>> Church
>>>>> has canonized. The night before the celebration of All Saint's Day is
>>>>> known
>>>>> as All Hallow's Eve ("Hallows" mean "saints" both mean "holy ones" as
>>>>> in
>>>>> "Hallowed be thy name"). So, Halloween means "the evening before All
>>>>> Saint's
>>>>> Day."
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can see from the pagan roots of Halloween why this has become the
>>>>> most
>>>>> important day to those who worship satan or choose to live in rebellion
>>>>> to
>>>>> God and the TRUTH of His Word. There is NOTHING about this day that
>>>>> honors
>>>>> God, remembers God, or has anything to do at all with God. It is, quite
>>>>> honestly, a celebration of those who oppose God and all that He stands
>>>>> for.
>>>>> THIS is why it's a day Christians should NOT celebrate nor be part of
>>>>> in
>>>>> any
>>>>> way.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I love you and care about you so much. Tomorrow, Part Two of this
>>>>> series
>>>>> is
>>>>> titled, "A Christian's Response to Halloween." Do we hide in our homes
>>>>> with
>>>>> the lights off? Do we all go to church and hide in the basement so the
>>>>> devil
>>>>> doesn't get us? What exactly should a Christian be doing on Halloween?
>>>>> I
>>>>> will give you a hint. It will be a bold call to action. I can think of
>>>>> no
>>>>> better night to see souls won for Christ than on Halloween.
>>>>> 
>>>>> DO NOT MISS PART TWO TOMORROW AS WE CELEBRATE A NEW HOLIDAY ON OCTOBER
>>>>> 31ST
>>>>> THAT WILL HONOR JESUS CHRIST, THE KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS!!!
>>>>> 
>>>>> In His love and service, Your friend and brother in Christ,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bill Keller
>>>>> 
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