[Faith-talk] Faith-talk Digest, Vol 90, Issue 22
Ericka Short
ericka.short at wi.rr.com
Wed Jan 21 22:28:45 UTC 2015
I'm stuck in the doctors office waiting to hear if I have bronchitis. I'm quickly reading through my email and discovered there was someone looking for Bible verses to combat their frustration over not feeling like they are putting forth their prayer and effort into helping others in a where that is not draining. I suggest you read the story of Samuel and Eli. I focused on that recently and that help me realize that my "mission "in my current community is over and I need to move on and look for where the Lord is leading me to serve. Where specifically and what I do not know yet. But it's very freeing to know that God has something else in store for me and that it's okay. I was really struggling with changes that needed to be made in my life. The Lord answered me just as he answered many others in the Bible. I got an answer which is really taking me out of my comfort zone but that's what got God does sometimes. I've lived in my current community 415 almost 16 years. Apparently he thinks it's time to my Sean. I'm scared and I'm excited to see what will happen.
I wish you and all those who are struggling with their call to serve The best along in this proof roll journey.
Ericka
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> 1. Re: apologies, let's change all this subject (Debby Phillips)
> 2. Re: update on my friend in Iowa (Debby Phillips)
> 3. prayer requests (tina sohl)
> 4. Prayer request (Tony Sohl)
> 5. Re: prayer requests (Debby Phillips)
> 6. forgot to add, prayers (tina sohl)
> 7. man with the mat (Maureen Pranghofer)
> 8. Re: update on my friend in Iowa (Maureen Pranghofer)
> 9. Re: man with the mat (Debby Phillips)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 07:42:38 -0800
> From: Debby Phillips <semisweetdebby at gmail.com>
> To: Beth Taurasi <denverqueen1107 at comcast.net>, "Faith-talk, for the
> discussion of faith and religion" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>,
> faith-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] apologies, let's change all this subject
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> Hi Beth, it's wonderful to know that you have the Lord in your
> life. I pray that today may be peaceful and filled with the
> comfort of the Lord for you. Gosh, if I could be 30 again! Lol.
> I hope I would do a few things differently, but who knows? We all
> do the best we can do. Take care, and God bless. Debby
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 07:42:44 -0800
> From: Debby Phillips <semisweetdebby at gmail.com>
> To: "Brandon A. Olivares" <programmer2188 at gmail.com>,
> semisweetdebby at gmail.com
> Cc: faith-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] update on my friend in Iowa
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> Hi Brandon, I understand what you are saying. I will admit that
> in the beginning I felt impatient. But I tried, to the best of
> my ability to respond in a loving manner. I think it's very hard
> to respond appropriately from a distance, as jell. It's not like
> I, or any of us could fly to that city and check everything out.
>
> I think it is easy to be uninvolved. When we are bombarded with
> so much stuff from news stories, etc. there's a tendency to want
> to hibernate, develop a fortress mentality, and just not be all
> that involved. But that's not the NFB way, and definitely not
> the Christian way. Blessings, Debby and NEENA
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 12:37:16 -0500
> From: tina sohl <tinabir at samobile.net>
> To: faith-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Faith-talk] prayer requests
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> hi i have a few here that are on my heart. needing prayer to not be
> anxious about them. first, for a long time friend whos having issues
> bwith her mom. they've not seen eye to eye for years and both are
> having recent medicalh issues but my friends the type u have to walk on
> eggshells with. say the wrong thing practically breathe the wrong way
> and she's mad. i think she's fallen away from god too they don''t have
> a church home eventually she walks away from those too. i didn't know
> what tho say about this hlatest thing with her mom, sho textegd that i
> hoped for reconciliation thant it must be very painful to deal with. i
> cant imagine fighting to that degree with my dad. my own mothers never
> been around, and isn't capable of a relationship as adults but i've
> forgiven her for that, she has a lot of mentahl illness she's leaving
> uhntreated, but it is what it is both am so thankful my dads always
> been there. now if he'd jusgt come to the lord! also have been emailng
> with someone over the weekend who's a recent widow but not a believer
> and just soo angry! i get that, but i tried to encourage her and tried
> to empathize having felt what i thought might be similar after some of
> y losses. i told her about a grief support group tony and i went to
> that was just tremendously helpful and that was all, just put IT out
> there, she didn't even acknowledge what i said. no, thanks i'm not
> ready or anything. just sent another message yesterday detailing More
> of her anger at him passing and herp pending job loss. she said she has
> thought of doing volunteer work which i ssuggestedt to have something
> meaningful to do and give to others even even if its just done online
> since its hard for her to get out. i'm just feeling drained with all of
> this. i like helping people very much, but feel like i try i try and
> its pointless feel like my soul needs to be fed today but not sure
> where to go fore recharging. any good bible verses for this?
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 12:41:29 -0500
> From: Tony Sohl <tonysohl at samobile.net>
> To: faith-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Faith-talk] Prayer request
> Message-ID: <5747c21c.634e.4da3.9e67.e31d5900cc71 at samobile.net>
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> I have a preayer request
>
> My mom's still having problems with her right hand and getting on
> medical insurance!
>
> Medicare's giving her the run-a-round
> ! Typical governmental insurance!
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 09:48:44 -0800
> From: Debby Phillips <semisweetdebby at gmail.com>
> To: tina sohl <tinabir at samobile.net>, "Faith-talk, for the discussion
> of faith and religion" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>, faith-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] prayer requests
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> Tina, sometimes when I feel like you are feeling, I just read the
> Psalms. Any and all of them. Blessings, Debby and Neena
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 13:09:43 -0500
> From: tina sohl <tinabir at samobile.net>
> To: faith-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Faith-talk] forgot to add, prayers
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> i forgot to add that the woman needing eggshells i've know for 30 years
> or more and just has gotten worse over the years and the other lady
> just emailed me out of the blue this weekend asking where we live and
> saying sh was wanting to build new friendships after the loss of her
> husband but when i told her our interests and things, she didn't
> reciprocate. its almost as though she just wants a sounding board. i'm
> willing to listen gods put me in that place for people often, but just
> thought that might be relevant info.
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 14:47:50 -0600
> From: "Maureen Pranghofer" <maureensmusic at comcast.net>
> To: "for the discussion of faith and religion Faith-talk"
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> Subject: [Faith-talk] man with the mat
> Message-ID: <F17A9FD1FAD04F47BCF71BFD2DC824B7 at maureenPC>
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> In a different thread there was a mention of the man who was beside the pool whom Jesus healed. I heard an interesting sermon on this. It was almost like Jesus (because of the emphasis in the Greek) was saying stop being so lazy, and pick up your mat and get out of here. And according to the person giving the message the whole thing was not so much about healing as about we have always a choice to do something so don?t just sit there. I thought it was an interesting perspective.
> Maureen
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 14:54:33 -0600
> From: "Maureen Pranghofer" <maureensmusic at comcast.net>
> To: "Brandon A. Olivares" <programmer2188 at gmail.com>, "Faith-talk, for
> the discussion of faith and religion" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] update on my friend in Iowa
> Message-ID: <ECF1E146FDF5460B861A004EDBAE35A3 at maureenPC>
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> Hi
> You're right on. Thanks for the good post.
> Maureen
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brandon A. Olivares via Faith-talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 1:00 AM
> To: Debby Phillips
> Cc: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] update on my friend in Iowa
>
> Debby, yes you are right. But the manner you go about doing such is vital.
> Again I don?t want to discuss the specific situation because it?s been
> discouraged here, but simply the reaction. And the coldness and even
> harshness I witness just doesn?t seem loving. Again of course there is a
> right way of going about things, but no matter what, I think we all,
> Christians or non-Christians, are called to approach it in a loving way. I
> have no doubt that that?s exactly how you do it, because that?s the type of
> person you appear to be. But regardless, it?s something for us all to
> consider.
>
> I?ll give an example, just to try to separate the discussion from its origin
> a bit. Christine and I know someone who we believed needed advocacy. His
> family told us that he was being refused services. Initially we went in
> assuming they were right and didn?t simply have blinders on. We tried to get
> him help, even got to know him on a personal level a bit. But as we did so,
> we got more information about that situation. He had a low IQ, so his
> educational requirements were quite different. The services he was
> attempting to receive wasn?t fitted to his circumstances and cognitive
> abilities. His family still refuses to see that, but so be it.
>
> Anyway, point being, we still did our best to approach him and his family
> with love and concern. We explained the best we could the reasons he wasn?t
> meeting with success in the avenues he was pursuing, and suggested some
> alternatives. Sometimes we had to set boundaries, because he would call all
> hours of the day and night, and so that was something we had to deal with
> respectfully. But my point is, we didn?t just turn a cold shoulder. We got
> the information we had to, and proceeded accordingly, as objectively as we
> possibly could. And we set the limits that had to be set.
>
> There are always two sides to every story, but neither side is generally
> totally unwarranted. Each side has its valid points. So we can?t just turn a
> cold shoulder and say that?s it. As civilized human beings, we need to help
> how we can and back off where necessary, all of it done as much as is
> possible with love and compassion.
>
> Love has many different faces. Sometimes it is accepting. Sometimes it is
> rejecting. Sometimes it is sympathetic. Sometimes it doesn?t allow for
> excuses. But you can always tell what?s really underneath it all. That?s
> just my point.
>
> ---
> Peace,
> Brandon
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>> On Jan 19, 2015, at 11:05 PM, Debby Phillips <semisweetdebby at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Brandon, were you asking this of RJ or or everyone? I will tell you this.
>> I do, as a Christian believe in advocacy, but the person who needs the
>> advocacy needs to be part of the process, ask me, or accept my invitation
>> to help, but they must also be involved in the process. Often when Jesus
>> healed people he told them to pick up their mat and go home, or similar
>> things. Jesus once asked the man laying beside the pool at Bethesda, "Do
>> you want to be healed?" That struck me as very interesting. Because I
>> think if that guy had said, no, I don't want to be healed, Jesus would
>> have left him right where he was. As it is, the guy said, "When the
>> angels come to trouble the water I don't have anybody to help me into the
>> pool." I believe in advocacy, but I do not believe that we should just
>> walk roughshod over people's feelings and desires. Now, when people have
>> no voice, because they cannot even speak for themselves enough to say they
>> want help, that's a little different. I will tell you, without going into
>> all the nasty details, that my husband's family is in the midst of just
>> such a thing, and I'm involved in it as much as I can. If I had my way,
>> I'd be doing some face to face confrontation, and I'd probably mess
>> everything up. Sometimes you have to be careful about how you do things.
>> I can't just go in with guns blazing (not literally). But you know what I
>> mean. And I might make things worse by doing so. So I'll do what I can
>> in the background, and if I feel that the time has come to confront, I
>> will. But for now, I'm letting the process go forward in a legal manner.
>> Peace, Debby and Neena
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 21:32:03 -0800
> From: Debby Phillips <semisweetdebby at gmail.com>
> To: Maureen Pranghofer <maureensmusic at comcast.net>, "Faith-talk, for
> the discussion of faith and religion" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>,
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> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] man with the mat
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> Very interesting, and I was trying to make that point, in a way.
> Interesting take on that story. Blessings, Debby and Neena
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