[Faith-talk] The Christ of Lightworkers Media

Mon Mar 23 02:14:22 UTC 2015

Hi all,
This article implies that RomaDowney is involved in new age and is promoting 
that through the media.  So what?  Our God is bigger than that and what may 
seem evil is made good through him.  Joseph, being thrown in a pit by his 
brothers, and taken to Egypt, look what it led to.  And what could be worse 
than dying on a cross and look what it led to?  Resurrection.  Yes we as 
believers have the Holy Spirit which helps us discern and we need to know 
the Word, but if God could use a donkey He can use anything for His service 
including these movies which, personally, I think are way more credible than 
a donkey.
Maureen

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From: Poppa Bear via Faith-talk
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religion'
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] The Christ of Lightworkers Media

Well, I guess that the Passion of Christ by Mel Gibson should be burned in 
effigy, along with vegy tails because Gibson is out of his mind and a Jue 
hater by all accounts and those animated vegy's have completely mocked the 
Holy Bible. Before I get to off hand, I will say that I think that we do 
need to exercise discernment, but this does sound a little like a witch 
hunt. Have these movies produced much fruit? Maybe so, maybe no. Perhaps she 
will read this article and throw herself at the feet of the writer and ask 
for forgiveness, or come out and make a public declaration denouncing her 
past, or maybe she will keep making movies that cause people to open the 
Bible and try to learn about this Jesus. But I simply imagine that some 
would just prefer her to not make another movie again. I wonder if anyone 
who helped compile all of these sins took the time to try and reach out to 
her, pray for her? Well, it makes me think of this song by Casting Crowns, 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipwEtvWL_3c

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Wow, personally I think this article is ridiculous.

Even though I’m not Christian, I watched The Bible series when it aired. I 
saw no problems with it. Who cares what Roma Downey or anyone else has done 
in the past?

This entire article just smells of a judgmental attitude. Some people just 
want to find problems, no matter what.

> On Mar 18, 2015, at 12:30 PM, Linda Mentink via Faith-talk 
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> Hi all,
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> I thought this information might be helpful to some here.
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> Blessings,
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> Linda
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> The Christ of Lightworkers Media
>
> March 18, 2015
>
> __________
>
> Roma Downey is the co-owner, with her husband Mark Burnett, of 
> Lightworkers Media, the producer of The Bible miniseries which aired in 
> 2013 (the History Channel) and The Son of God movie which appeared in 2014 
> (20th Century Fox). The movie was adapted from the miniseries. In December 
> 2014, Lightworkers Media will air Women of Bible.
>
>
> The fact that Roma's productions are widely promoted by "evangelical" 
> Christians is evidence of the width and depth of the apostasy that we are 
> witnessing in these end times.
>
>
> The Bible miniseries was endorsed by Rick Warren, Jim Daly of Focus on the 
> Family, T.D. Jakes, Joel Osteen, Lisa Harper of Women of Faith, Luis 
> Palau, Dick Rolfe, and many others. Osteen, Warren, and Jakes were 
> advisers for the Lightworkers Media production. Rick Warren rented movie 
> theaters for the showing of the Son of God movie. Osteen purchased and 
> distributed 8,000 tickets.
>
>
> Victoria Osteen and Kay Warren appear in the Women of the Bible. These 
> women are wives of the pastors of two of the largest "evangelical" 
> churches in America. Joyce Meyer is also featured in Women of the Bible.
>
>
> Roma Downey played a prominent role in the January 2015 We Will Stand 
> Contemporary Music concert, which featured Michael W. Smith, Amy Grant, 
> Newsboys, Don Moen, Mark Schultz, Sandi Patti, Travis Cottrell (Beth 
> Moore's worship leader), Steven Curtis Chapman, Steve Green, Dallas Holm, 
> Russ Taff, The Imperials, Don Francisco, First Call, Michael Omartian, 
> Francesca Battistelli, Kari Jobe, Laura Story, Petra, 4Him, Point of 
> Grace, Carman, Nicole Mullen, among others.
>
>
> Downey's productions have been hugely popular.
>
>
> The first episode of The Bible, which ran on March 2013, was seen by more 
> than 13 million viewers, the largest cable television audience that year 
> ("Mark Burnett's The Bible begets record ratings," Entertainment Weekly, 
> March 4, 2013). When The Bible was released on DVD a month later, it 
> quickly sold more than one-half million copies to become the top-selling 
> TV miniseries. Within the first month, the miniseries had been viewed by 
> an estimated 95 million people ("#1 TV on DVD in last five years," 
> HollywoodJesus.com, April 8, 2013). The YouVersion Bible App, the official 
> app of The Bible miniseries, had 88 million downloads and was the in top 
> 15 of all free apps in the iTunes store.
>
>
> The Son of God movie made $26.5 million in its first weekend, and within 
> three months it had grossed $68 million.
>
>
> Shouldn't we rejoice that multitudes of people are seeing these multimedia 
> presentations about the Bible and Jesus?
>
>
> God warns His people to prove all things and to try the spirits. He warns 
> of false christs and false spirits and false gospels.
>
>
> "For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive 
> many" (Matthew 24:5).
>
>
> "But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his 
> subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in 
> Christ" (2 Corinthians 11:3).
>
>
> "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are 
> of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world" (1 John 
> 4:1).
>
>
> In light of what Roma Downey believes and practices, it is obvious that 
> her programs and movies are introducing people to a false christ, a false 
> spirit, and a false gospel.
>
>
> NEW AGE SELF WORSHIP
>
>
> Roma, who became famous for her role as "the angel Monica" in the New-agey 
> TV series Touched by an Angel, is a Roman Catholic who holds New Age 
> principles and communes with the dead.
>
>
> Touched by an Angel promotes the New Age doctrines that men are not 
> estranged from God by sin, that they do not have to be reconciled through 
> Christ's atonement, that God is the Father of all men, that angels are not 
> perfect, and that salvation is by human kindness.
>
>
> When Roma was married in 2007 to television producer Mark Burnett (her 
> second marriage), the ceremony was performed by Della Reese, her co-star 
> in Touched by an Angel. Reese is the co-founder with Johnnie Coleman of 
> the Understanding Principles for Better Living Church. Coleman is a New 
> Thought minister of the Unity School of Christianity, which teaches, "We 
> are Divine through the Christ within, the individualization of God in us."
>
>
> Roma graduated from the University of Santa Monica with a masters degree 
> in Spiritual Psychology. The university was "founded by New Age spiritual 
> and self-help guru John-Roger" ("Roma Downey Happy Out of Spotlight," 
> Beck/Smith Hollywood, April 23, 2013). The university's web site describes 
> Spiritual Psychology as "the study and practice of the art and science of 
> human evolution in consciousness." It says that the benefits of Spiritual 
> Psychology include "experiencing enhanced spiritual awareness through 
> knowing yourself as a Divine Being," "individual evolution," and "learning 
> to relate to yourself with greater compassion and awareness of yourself as 
> a Divine Being having a human experience."
>
>
> The New Age book Loyalty to Your Soul by Ron and Mary Hulnick carries Roma 
> Downey's recommendation as follows: "The teachings in this beautiful book 
> have sent me on a journey to the very center of my own being where, 
> wrapped in the safe wings of Love, I feel as though I have come home."
>
>
> Loyalty to Your Soul teaches self worship. "Center your awareness in your 
> heart and consciously look for the Loving Essence in the person in your 
> presence. By doing so, you're signifying your respect for the Soul before 
> you ...  Maintain awareness that you're in conversation with another 
> Divine Being who is engaged in having a human experience" (p. 209).
>
>
> She says that she listens to books on tape by New Age guru Eckhart Tolle, 
> who teaches the divinity of man. (See our book The New Age Tower of Babel 
> for documentation.) Tolle says, "God, the scripture is saying, is formless 
> consciousness and the essence of who you are" (The New Earth, p. 219), 
> and, "Christ is your God-essence or Self" (The Power of Now, p. 104).
>
>
> COMMUNING WITH MARY
>
>
> Roma says, "I have prayed to Mary and loved her my whole life" ("The 
> Bible: An Epic Mini-Series," Catholiclane.com, Feb. 28, 2013). (She plays 
> the part of Mary in The Bible miniseries.) She promotes the use of the 
> Rosary as a meditation practice. By this, practitioners pray to Mary as 
> the Queen of Heaven and the Mother of God. The Catholic Mary is a mediator 
> between God and man who can hear and answer the prayers of every 
> petitioner, thus having the divine attributes of omnipresence and 
> omnipotence.
>
>
> COMMUNING WITH THE DEAD
>
>
> Roma also communes with the dead. On the Crossing Over television program 
> on the Sci-Fi Channel in 2002, she supposedly talked to her mother through 
> the mediumship of psychic Jonathan Edwards (Drew MacKenzie, "Roma's TV 
> chat to dead mother," TheFreeLibrary.com). Roma's CD "Meditation" is 
> included with Jonathan Edward's book Practical Praying: Using the Rosary 
> to Enhance Your Life.
>
>
> "And the soul that turneth after such as have familiar spirits, and after 
> wizards, to go a whoring after them, I will even set my face against that 
> soul, and will cut him off from among his people" (Leviticus 20:6).
>
>
> "And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar 
> spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people 
> seek unto their God? for the living to the dead?" (Isaiah 8:19).
>
>
> A FALSE CHRIST
>
>
> The christ of The Bible miniseries and The Son of God movie is not the 
> Christ of Scripture. The christ of Lightworkers Media is the typical 
> long-haired hippy of popular mythical imagination. He looks and acts like 
> a cool surfer dude, a miracle-working super hero. He does not call people 
> to repentance from sin; he does not warn of hell; he does not require the 
> new birth for salvation. The christ of The Bible miniseries and The Son of 
> God movie is the non-judgmental christ of The Shack, a christ who accepts 
> everyone, sees the goodness in every person, and "puts no obligations on 
> anyone." He is a cool, modern christ. At the Last Supper, the christ of 
> the Son of God movie does not mention "the forgiveness of sins" in 
> connection with the cup and his death.
>
>
> The Son of God promotes a New Age world in which all men will be saved, in 
> which all religions are accepted by God. Before he is beheaded, John the 
> Baptist says, "His [Jesus] power will draw all men to a new world."
>
>
> "In the 'Son of God' what they are trying to present is not the Orthodox 
> Christ, but one who's message is not of repentance but of uniting all 
> faiths into and earthly kingdom where all are welcome. In Antichrist's 
> kingdom heretics and sinners, all are told they are accepted as they are" 
> ("Son of God: A Charismatic Revival Masterpiece," Orthodox Views, March 1, 
> 2014).
>
>
> It can be no accident that the actor of The Son of God movie bears an 
> uncanny resemblance to a New Age "cosmic christ" and ascended master 
> called Sananda who is channelled by occultists.
>
>
>
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