[Faith-talk] Thought for October 16

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I have seen this before.  It is a good post. It does make sense.   

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Date: Friday, October 16, 2015 10:58 am
Subject: [Faith-talk] Thought for October 16

>
>
> A Story of God vs Science 
> 
> The university professor challenged his students with this question. Did God
> create everything that exists?  A student bravely replied, "Yes, he did!" 
> 
> "God created everything? The professor asked.  
> 
> "Yes sir", the student replied.  
> 
> The professor answered, "If God created everything, then God created evil
> since evil exists, and according to the principal that our works define who
> we are then God is evil". The student became quiet before such an answer.
> The professor was quite pleased with himself and boasted to the students
> that he had proven once more that the Christian faith was a myth. 
> 
> Another student raised his hand and said, "Can I ask you a question
> professor?"  
> 
> "Of course", replied the professor.  
> 
> The student stood up and asked, "Professor, does cold exist?"  
> 
> "What kind of question is this?  Of course it exists. Have you never been
> cold?" The students snickered at the young man's question. 
> 
> The young man replied, "In fact sir, cold does not exist. According to the
> laws of physics, what we consider cold is in reality the absence of heat.
> Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits
> energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy.
> Absolute zero (-460 degrees F) is the total absence of heat; all matter
> becomes inert and incapable of reaction at that temperature. Cold does not
> exist. We have created this word to describe how we feel if we have no
> heat." 
> 
> The student continued, "Professor, does darkness exist?"   
> 
> The professor responded, "Of course it does." 
> 
> The student replied, "Once again you are wrong sir, darkness does not exist
> either. Darkness is in reality the absence of light. Light we can study, but
> not darkness. In fact we can use Newton's prism to break white light into
> many colors and study the various wavelengths of each color. You cannot
> measure darkness. A simple ray of light can break into a world of darkness
> and illuminate it. How can you know how dark a certain space is?  You
> measure the amount of light present. Isn't this correct? Darkness is a term
> used by man to describe what happens when there is no light present." 
> 
> Finally the young man asked the professor, "Sir, does evil exist?"   
> 
> Now uncertain, the professor responded, "Of course as I have already said.
> We see it every day.  It is in the daily example of man's inhumanity to man.
> It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These
> manifestations are nothing else but evil." 
> 
> To this the student replied, "Evil does not exist sir, or at least it does
> not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like
> darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of
> God. God did not create evil. Evil is not like faith, or love that exist
> just as does light and heat. Evil is the result of what happens when man
> does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes
> when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light." 
> 
> The professor sat down. 
> 
> That young man was said to be Albert Einstein in 1921 
> 
> (but this fact is disputed here)
> 
> --------
> 
> Einstein wasn't a Christian. He was raised in a Jewish family... thus he
> believed in god. You don't have to be Christian to believe in god.
> 
> Einstein published a paper in Nature in 1940 entitled "Science and Religion"
> in which says that: "a person who is religiously enlightened appears to me
> to be one who has, to the best of his ability, liberated himself from the
> fetters of his selfish desires and is preoccupied with thoughts, feelings
> and aspirations to which he clings because of their super-personal value .
> regardless of whether any attempt is made to unite this content with a
> Divine Being, for otherwise it would not be possible to count Buddha and
> Spinoza as religious personalities. Accordingly a religious person is devout
> in the sense that he has no doubt of the significance of those
> super-personal objects and goals which neither require nor are capable of
> rational foundation . In this sense religion is the age-old endeavour of
> mankind to become clearly and completely conscious of these values and
> goals, and constantly to strengthen their effects." He argued that conflicts
> between science and religion "have all sprung from fatal errors." "[E)'ven
> though the realms of religion and science in themselves are clearly marked
> off from each other" there are "strong reciprocal relationships and
> dependencies . science without religion is lame, religion without science is
> blind . a legitimate conflict between science and religion cannot exist." In
> Einstein's view, "neither the rule of human nor Divine Will exists as an
> independent cause of natural events. To be sure, the doctrine of a personal
> God interfering with natural events could never be refuted . by science, for
> [it] can always take refuge in those domains in which scientific knowledge
> has not yet been able to set foot." (Einstein 1940, pp. 605-607)
> 
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