[Faith-talk] Thought for October 16

Sat Oct 17 00:10:44 UTC 2015

Hello Justin, record it? I am not sure exactly what you mean. I doubt that
you would want to hear me reading anything, LOL.

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If you could record it, I would love to listen ot it later; I will be busy
tomorrow.
 Thanks.
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I have read some of these before as well, but they are still good to read
again. 

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Thank you Rob, I will try to stay faithful with God's help. Though I have
read many of them before, I still get something out of them and I pray that
others will. Of Corse some may only click on one thought a weak, but God's
timing is perfect so I'll put it all in his hands. 

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Great story. Keep them coming. 

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A Story of God vs Science 

The university professor challenged his students with this question. Did God
create everything that exists?  A student bravely replied, "Yes, he did!" 

"God created everything? The professor asked.  

"Yes sir", the student replied.  

The professor answered, "If God created everything, then God created evil
since evil exists, and according to the principal that our works define who
we are then God is evil". The student became quiet before such an answer.
The professor was quite pleased with himself and boasted to the students
that he had proven once more that the Christian faith was a myth. 

Another student raised his hand and said, "Can I ask you a question
professor?"  

"Of course", replied the professor.  

The student stood up and asked, "Professor, does cold exist?"  

"What kind of question is this?  Of course it exists. Have you never been
cold?" The students snickered at the young man's question. 

The young man replied, "In fact sir, cold does not exist. According to the
laws of physics, what we consider cold is in reality the absence of heat.
Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits
energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy.
Absolute zero (-460 degrees F) is the total absence of heat; all matter
becomes inert and incapable of reaction at that temperature. Cold does not
exist. We have created this word to describe how we feel if we have no
heat." 

The student continued, "Professor, does darkness exist?"   

The professor responded, "Of course it does." 

The student replied, "Once again you are wrong sir, darkness does not exist
either. Darkness is in reality the absence of light. Light we can study, but
not darkness. In fact we can use Newton's prism to break white light into
many colors and study the various wavelengths of each color. You cannot
measure darkness. A simple ray of light can break into a world of darkness
and illuminate it. How can you know how dark a certain space is?  You
measure the amount of light present. Isn't this correct? Darkness is a term
used by man to describe what happens when there is no light present." 

Finally the young man asked the professor, "Sir, does evil exist?"   

Now uncertain, the professor responded, "Of course as I have already said.
We see it every day.  It is in the daily example of man's inhumanity to man.
It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These
manifestations are nothing else but evil." 

To this the student replied, "Evil does not exist sir, or at least it does
not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like
darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of
God. God did not create evil. Evil is not like faith, or love that exist
just as does light and heat. Evil is the result of what happens when man
does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes
when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light." 

The professor sat down. 

That young man was said to be Albert Einstein in 1921 

(but this fact is disputed here)

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Einstein wasn't a Christian. He was raised in a Jewish family... thus he
believed in god. You don't have to be Christian to believe in god.

Einstein published a paper in Nature in 1940 entitled "Science and Religion"
in which says that: "a person who is religiously enlightened appears to me
to be one who has, to the best of his ability, liberated himself from the
fetters of his selfish desires and is preoccupied with thoughts, feelings
and aspirations to which he clings because of their super-personal value .
regardless of whether any attempt is made to unite this content with a
Divine Being, for otherwise it would not be possible to count Buddha and
Spinoza as religious personalities. Accordingly a religious person is devout
in the sense that he has no doubt of the significance of those
super-personal objects and goals which neither require nor are capable of
rational foundation . In this sense religion is the age-old endeavour of
mankind to become clearly and completely conscious of these values and
goals, and constantly to strengthen their effects." He argued that conflicts
between science and religion "have all sprung from fatal errors." "[E]ven
though the realms of religion and science in themselves are clearly marked
off from each other" there are "strong reciprocal relationships and
dependencies . science without religion is lame, religion without science is
blind . a legitimate conflict between science and religion cannot exist." In
Einstein's view, "neither the rule of human nor Divine Will exists as an
independent cause of natural events. To be sure, the doctrine of a personal
God interfering with natural events could never be refuted . by science, for
[it] can always take refuge in those domains in which scientific knowledge
has not yet been able to set foot." (Einstein 1940, pp. 605-607)

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