[Faith-talk] Church experiences

[justin williams]

Hey Greg, you are spot on.
thumbs up big man.

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From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Greg
Aikens via Faith-talk
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2015 11:15 AM
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Cc: Greg Aikens <gpaikens at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church experiences

Hi Poppa Bear,
Unless I misunderstand you, I disagree with you. Certainly the church
service only lasts a few hours a week and can be considered a small slice of
the pie, but when I think of being part of a church, I am thinking of being
a part of a church community. I think having a strong, loving, church
community around you is vital for walking out your faith. Some churches I
have attended did not place a high value or emphasis on this kind of
community and I often struggled to feel connected and part of the church
body, even when I had consistent transportation. When I needed to find a new
source of transportation because my friends moved away, I felt even less a
part of the community as I struggled to find someone who was willing to give
me a ride. These experiences were painful, discouraging, and hindered my
walk with God as I grew resentful. 

On the other hand, I have attended churches, like my current church, that
place a high emphasis on community and living out your faith with other
believers. I spend much more time with people from my church during the week
and rarely struggle to find a ride. The first time I visited, I used uber to
get to church. Without my asking or mentioning, someone offered me a ride
home and to go watch the game after church.  I am part of the community and
often have to turn down offers of a ride to church because someone beat them
to it. It is a much different experience and it has made a tremendous
difference in my spiritual life to have others to walk out my faith with, to
encourage and be encouraged by, etc. . 

All that to say, having a good church community goes a lot farther in my
mind than just a few hours a week. It can be difficult to find this kind of
community, particularly with transportation issues, but those churches do
exist and it is possible for us as blind people to participate fully.   

Best,
Greg

> On Sep 7, 2015, at 10:34 AM, Poppa Bear via Faith-talk
<faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Rob, remember that Church is only one slice of the pie, a few 
> hours a week at the most, it's the other slices that I imagine we all 
> have even more struggles with.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> Rob Kaiser via Faith-talk
> Sent: Monday, September 07, 2015 12:04 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church experiences
> 
> I'm glad Papa Bear that church is going well for you.
> 
> 
> 
> Rob Kaiser
> hm#(442)242-7044
> email;
> rcubfank at sbcglobal.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Poppa Bear via Faith-talk
> Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2015 9:12 PM
> To: 'Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion'
> Cc: Poppa Bear
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church experiences
> 
> Thanks Justin, hang in there.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> justin williams via Faith-talk
> Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 8:06 PM
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> Cc: justin williams
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church experiences
> 
> thumbs up to you then old bear.  I'm glad you have that.
> Justin.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> Poppa Bear via Faith-talk
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> Cc: Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church experiences
> 
> Over all I have no complaints about my Church. I am usually just 
> thrilled to have a place to worship. I have spent a lot of time 
> encountering stories and testimonies of those around the world who 
> face so much persecution, have to fellowship in secret, walk 6 hours 
> to gather with other believers, and face prison or worse if caught 
> with even a portion of the Bible. This being the case, if I can sit in 
> a pew, where people are singing, reading the Bible, praying and 
> preaching the Gospel I am feeling pretty good. I typically don't have 
> any problems getting to any of the services or related studies, this 
> Saturday the men's breakfast and bible study starts up for the winter 
> through spring and after this weekend's class I will go to a two hour
class about getting involved in the prison ministry.
> Well, I hope everyone can find a bright spot in their valley's.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> Rob Kaiser via Faith-talk
> Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 3:45 PM
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> 
> I guess what all of this menas is that with the world like it is today 
> people are getting more carsious about wantig to help handycapped 
> individuals.
> 
> 
> 
> Rob Kaiser
> hm#(442)242-7044
> email;
> rcubfank at sbcglobal.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: justin williams via Faith-talk
> Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2015 4:40 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church experiences
> 
> Mine has been very up and down, on the whole, more down than up.  So 
> much so recently, that I can't even get my self excited about attending a
church.
> I go to Bahaii events; they seem to be more accepting for the most part.
> I also go to workshops and events related to spirituality.
> That church business with inclusion and transportation seems to be not 
> worth the trouble.
> 
> Justin.
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> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> Maria S via Faith-talk
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> Cc: Maria S <raynbo15 at gmail.com>
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> 
> I've had good and bad experiences. My church here locally is very 
> small and so they are very inclusive and I'm welcome to participate in 
> whatever I want. When I moved for a job, I tried to be involved, but 
> no matter how hard I tried I was always sort of left in the corner.
> They were very friendly so it was hard. I hope I can find a good 
> church when I move soon.
> 
> Maria
> 
> On 9/6/15, Rob Kaiser via Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Since I moved up here to Victorville, I have had a not-so-good church
>> experience: I wanted  to join the choir but because of the lac of 
>> public and
>> 
>> pera transit up here,  I needed rides to and from church. Not a one 
>> person has come forward to help  me in this endever.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Rob Kaiser
>> hm#(442)242-7044
>> email;
>> rcubfank at sbcglobal.net
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Roanna Bacchus via Faith-talk
>> Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2015 11:24 AM
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>> Cc: Roanna Bacchus
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church experiences
>> 
>> Hi Adrijana this is a great discussion topic.  My church expeerience 
>> has been wonderful.  I joined the choir in October of two thousand 
>> eight and the people were gracious and kind to me.
>> 
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