[Faith-talk] {Spam?} Re: {Spam?} Baffling Bible Questions Answered for Monday, May 9, 2016
Simon Beaumont
beaumont16 at btinternet.com
Mon May 9 22:20:09 UTC 2016
i enjoy reading this. i thought daniel wrote it but perhaps another jewish
writer, perhaps a scribe wrote it. god uses prophets to write things
concerning his judgement and what is true.
i often wondered how the mysterious human hand wrote on a wall during
belshazzar's last ruling reign / only god knew and it is possible that he
used his own powers to bring down judgement as well as mercy for those who
believed. i think maybe nebrchadnezzar believed in god.
sorry that i don't write my views very well. i try to express my views and
thoughts.
simon
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Monday,May 9, 2016
> Hello and greetings to you on a Monday or, for you in Australia and New
> Zealand, a good Tuesday. I hope that your day is going well, by God's
> matchless grace and His providential care.
>
> Before I give you the Baffling Bible questions answered for today, my
> apologies for not posting the quotes. I simply woke up too late to do so,
> but hopefully tomorrow they will be posted.
>
> Today we delve into the book of Daniel. It's somewhat long, so let's
> begin.
>
>
>
> Question: Who wrote this book, and what themes and topics does it deal
> with?
>
> Answer: The book purports to have been written by Daniel, a Jewish
> nobleman who was taken to Babylon as an adolescent and advanced to high
> positions in the civil service of both the Babylonian and Persian empires.
> The first six chapters of Daniel are biographical and relate incidents
> that demonstrate God's sovereignty despite his people's subjection to
> pagan powers. The second six chapters are filled with visions and
> prophecies about the future. These are intended to communicate to Israel
> that God in His sovereignty knows and controls the future and will
> establish the Jews to their homeland at history's end. To demonstrate
> this theme of God's sovereign control, Daniel utters some of the most
> specific of the Old Testament predictions about the course of history.
> These predictions were fulfilled so unmistakably that many critics have
> argued that the book itself must have been written in the second century
> B.C. rather than the fifth century B.C. setting of Daniel's story.
>
>
>
> Daniel's Dates
>
> Question: Modern critics insist that there is proof that Daniel was
> written in the second century B.C. instead of the fifth century B.C. If
> that's true, the book must be a fraud and can hardly be viewed as
> Scripture, which if correct shows the whole notion that the Bible is
> inspired by God to be wrong.
>
> Answer: There is no doubt that many believe the Book of Daniel is one of
> many religious writings dating from the second century, whose anonymous
> authors used the names of ancient heroes in their titles. This view is
> reflected in an article in "Bible Review" (August 1989, p. 13), in which
> Marc Brettler writes: "Clear linguistic and historical evidence suggests
> that Daniel was written in the second century B.C.E. (before the Common
> Era), yet the text itself implies it was written three centuries earlier.
> The author of Daniel made this false claim that his book would become an
> instant, ancient classic, and he suggested."
>
> The fact is, however, that "clear linguistic and historical evidence" does
> not suggest Daniel was written in the second century, and the notion that
> a newly created book could be foisted off on the Jews as an ancient work
> by Daniel is absurd. The Jews had a fanatically high regard for
> Scripture. Copyists followed strict rules to reduce the chance of even
> slight errors in transmission. Scholars debated the meaning of every
> phrase, and various interpretations were passed down from generation to
> generation. The idea that anyone in the second century B.C. could
> successfully claim his book as a book of Scripture composed by Daniel
> three centuries earlier and have it accepted by the community of Jewish
> scholars borders on the bizarre and at best must be considered irrational.
>
> But what about the historic and linguistic evidence cited by the critics?
> One line of reasons involves the description in Daniel 2, 7, 8, and 11 of
> the empires that succeeded Babylon, the Persian, Greek, and Roman Empires.
> How could Daniel have so accurately traced the division of Alexander's
> empire under his four generals if the book was not written after all this
> happened? The believer's answer, of course, is that all predictive
> prophecy depends on the supernatural. It is not at all surprising that
> God, who controls the future, knew the future course of empires and would
> reveal it ahead of time through His prophet.
>
> Other so-called historical evidence comes in the form of alleged
> inaccuracies that a real Daniel would supposedly have corrected. For
> instance, Daniel 1:1 says Nebudchadnezzar invaded Judah in the third year
> of Jehoiakim, while Jeremiah 46:2 places in the fourth year of Jehoiakim.
> But recent understanding of New Eastern dating systems has shown that the
> dating system used in Judah was different from one used in Babylon, and
> that this supposed inaccuracy is, in fact, a most compelling argument for
> fifth-century authorship. No Jew writing the Book of Daniel in the second
> century B.C. would have gone against Jeremiah 46:2 and dated the invasion
> using a Babylonian dating system three centuries out of date. There are a
> host of similar objections and responses. For instance, Belshazzar was
> long assumed to be apocryphal, because the Greek historian Herodotus,
> writing in 450 B.C., named Nabonidus as the last king of the Babylonian
> empire. See, the critics shouted, Daniel is wrong. Then came the
> discovery of cuneiform tablets which revealed that Belshazzar was the son
> of Nabonidus and had been made co-ruler with his father. Suddenly, it
> seemed that Daniel, in writing about the Babylon of 540 B.C., knew more
> about the situation there than Herodotus who wrote ninety years later.
> And, if the historian was in error about recent history, how could an
> unknown Jewish writer three hundred years later know about this lost fact
> of Belshazzar's co-regency?
>
> As archeology has provided more and more information about the
> Babylonian-Persian period, detail after detail in Daniel's portrayal of
> the times, its customs, and even of individual personalities has been
> authenticated. There are still historical problems. But a clear pattern
> has been established: When new information becomes available, it is
> Daniel, not the critics, who proves to be correct.
>
> How about the linguistic arguments? These hinge primarily on the notion
> that words borrowed from the Greek language are found in Daniel and that
> therefore the book could not have been written before the Helenistic
> period initiated by Alexander about 330 B.C. Here, too, research has
> provided interesting information. Today only three words in the book are
> undoubtedly borrowed from Greek. All are names of musical instruments,
> listed in Daniel 3:5, 10, 15. Could these words appear in an authentic
> fifth century B.C. Babylonian or Persian document? Absolutely.
> Eighth-century B.C. Assyrian inscriptions mention Greek captives taken to
> Mesopotamia. The Assyrians and Babylonians were always interested in
> music. Why shouldn't they have learned from these Greeks? Furthermore,
> the Greek Alcaeus of Lebos in the seventh century B.C. mentions his
> brother serving in the Babylonian army. Neo-Babylonian tablets from the
> same century list supplies provided to Ionian (Greek) shipbuilders and
> musicians. The argument that three music words from the Greek indicate a
> second-century date of the writing of Daniel is obviously incredible. In
> fact, Daniel's writing contain at least fifteen Persian words that have to
> do with government and administration. Daniel applies these words as they
> were used by the Persians themselves. This supports the fifth-century
> date. Daniel's correct use of these words simply cannot be explained if
> the author was an unknown second-century writer unfamiliar with the
> details of Persian government three hundred years before his time.
>
> It is amazing that, despite the host of evidence cited by conservative
> scholars, many people persist in holding the view that the Book of Daniel
> is a fraud perpetrated on the Jewish and Christian communities. Daniel
> is, in fact, inspired Scripture, an authentic account of the man whose
> adventures and visions it records. As Scripture, the prophecies of
> Daniel, many of which have proven accurate by the passage of time, must be
> given serious attention by anyone interested in the Bible's picture of the
> future of the earth.
>
> And there you have this week's baffling Bible questions answered column,
> written by an unknown author. Although a bit long, I hope that you
> enjoyed reading it.
>
> And that will do for today. Tomorrow we have an even longer article on
> the subject of clutter. Until then may the God of Abraham, Isaac and
> Jacob just keep us safe, individually and collectively, in these last days
> in which we live. Your Christian friend and brother, Paul
>
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