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[debby]

Hi David, if the list kept to those topics, it would be great. There are lots of other Christian lists out there, and I'm sure other lists where people can debate the merits of this or that belief system. I asked a question a couple of weeks ago, maybe a month, and never did get an answer that was relevant to what I asked. Perhaps I am the only person on the list who has this issue, but I never did get even an acknowledgement of my question except for someone who said that —munion was great. Sigh.    Debby

On Sep 3, 2016 7:09 PM, David Andrews via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Much of what you say is true. 
>
> This list was started so that people of faith, 
> who might be having problems, because of their 
> blindness, at their chosen place of worship could talk about it, get ideas etc. 
>
> It was never envisioned as a place where people 
> could debate the merits of this belief or that 
> belief, or scripture quote. Frankly, as the list 
> owner, I find all of this stuff, what I consider 
> to be theological hair splitting, to be 
> frustrating.  I periodically consider removing the list entirely. 
>
> David Andrews, List Owner 
>
> At 06:40 PM 9/3/2016, you wrote: 
> >I know that some people will be rejoicing at 
> >this email. Obviously I am not Anti-Scripture in 
> >any way, but I do wonder if this is the 
> >appropriate place !share such things. Yes, we 
> >are !share how our faith helps in dealing with 
> >blindness, and help each other !find ways of 
> >serving in the religious -munities !wh we 
> >belong. But this is not just a Christian list. I 
> >also do not like the messages that Adam sends, 
> >or Mustafa, either. I truly believe that we as 
> >blind people of faith have things !share with 
> >each other, and can be a resource !one another, 
> >but I was under the impression, when I 
> >subscribed !th list that it was a list for 
> >everyone !be a !share a. how our faith impacts 
> >our blindness and but. to ask questions and 
> >advice if we 'every in a situN where we want to 
> >be a to serve and are not allowed to, and 
> >this-so like that. If I am woong of course, 
> >Linda please tell me. Even among Christians 
> >there is disagreement about what the Bi says and 
> >how to interpret it. As a Catholic, I certainly 
> >believe that the Bi is inspired "God, but there 
> >are parts ofthe Bi that should NOT be taken as 
> >literal. There are para#s, there are books of 
> >poetry, books of history, there are metaphors, 
> >there are some things that are symbolic. But as 
> >a Catholic, I also believe in Tradition, with a 
> >camital t. Those are things that have been 
> >handed down since the beginning, there are earby 
> >century writings that are excellent. Are they 
> >inspired in the same wan that Scripture is? No, 
> >but that does not take away from their helpness 
> >in living holy lives. Lastly as a Cathelic, I 
> >believe in the teaching Authority ofthe Church. 
> >We are not lone ranger Christians, and we do not 
> >stand all alone, but owe are part of a larger 
> >body. The Holy Spirit does lead the Pope, bishop 
> >and priests who teach us, encourage us, guide 
> >us. Even Protestant churches have Tradition, 
> >with a capital T. When churches look at what 
> >they should do or think about this or that, they 
> >too look !Scripture, and !what their founders 
> >taught. As for Islam, well, I am not a Muslim, 
> >and do not believe what they do. But I do not 
> >think that this list is the appropriate place 
> >!denounce them. And I do not believe in same sex 
> >marriage, but I do not think this is the place 
> >!denounce such a lifestyle. If I am incorrect in 
> >my assumptions about what this faith talk list 
> >is supposed !be, then please Linda, tell me that 
> >I am wrong. If we are going !pick apart what 
> >others believe, then I do not want any part of 
> >that and will unsubscribe. If owe are going 
> >!share how our faith helps us in issues 
> >regarding our blindness, or if this is a place 
> >where people can ask for encouragement and 
> >advice about blindness issues that impact our 
> >faith, then wonderful, I'll stick around. I 
> >would have loved !h had a place like this list 
> >!share with when the religious -munity I wanted 
> >!enter refused me on the basis of my being 
> >blind. It was a very painful time in my life, 
> >and I reY strzggled with how !deal with that. I 
> >thank God for helping me during that time, and I 
> >thank Him now for giving me a wonderful life 
> >with my husband, two dogs and cat, how I have 
> >been blessed with friends, and with a job that I 
> >like. Paul's quotes often inspire me, and make 
> >me think. And I have been privileged !pray for 
> >some of you in your struggles, and know that I 
> >have been prayed for as well. Thank you for 
> >reading.    Debby On Sep 3, 2016 3:11 PM, 
> >David Moore via Faith-Talk 
> ><faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote: > > Hi all, > My 
> >name is David Moore from the United States. I 
> >would like to say a few > words. I hope as many 
> >of these words come from our Lord and Savior 
> >Jesus > Christ as possible. First of all, I 
> >would like to say that my nation is > getting 
> >more hypocritical all of the time. I personally 
> >after studying for > many years and praying, 
> >along with what the Lord has done believe that > 
> >salvation comes only from the blood of Christ. I 
> >have studied much of the > writings of Islam, 
> >and I have read the Bible over 50 times, and I 
> >read it > every day. After much prayer over the 
> >Islam literature, and then truly > praying to 
> >God and reading the Bible, God has shown me that 
> >the Bible is the > only Word of God, and No 
> >other religious writings is not. I have much > 
> >evidence to share with you concerning the 
> >authenticity of the Bible over > Muhammad's 
> >Qur'an and other Islam literature, but this 
> >would be an entire > study. I want all of you to 
> >know that there is a remnant of true 
> >Christians > in the United States who Truly 
> >believe and live out the Christian faith. > 
> >There are many churches who are selling out to 
> >please society and what is > politically 
> >correct. Unfortunately, many churches are 
> >marrying two men or > two women. Revelation 
> >talks a lot about the very last days, and I 
> >believe we > are headed toward these days if 
> >Christians do not wake up and live out what > 
> >the Bible says. The Bible and only the Bible is 
> >the 100% true Word of God. > The Bible is 
> >without error, and I could prove this to you 
> >through a lot of > study. The Qur'an, therefore, 
> >is just words written down like any other > 
> >book. The Qur'an is not, absolutely not, the 
> >Word of God. Now, If we Compare > Jesus to 
> >Muhammad, we will see many differences and 
> >contradictions. > Remember, there is only one 
> >truth. You cannot have 2+2 = 4, and have 2+2 = 
> >7 > as well. So, if Muhammad and Jesus 
> >contradict each other, there is a > problem. I 
> >have just said that I personally believe that 
> >the Bible is the > only word of God, and Jesus 
> >is the Word himself. Jesus came to earth as 
> >God > in the flesh. Muhammad was just another 
> >man. So, I love everyone and I am > open minded 
> >as you can get when it comes to loving people. 
> >However, I cannot > love people and let them go 
> >to hell at the same time. There is only one 
> >way > to heaven, just like there is only one 
> >truth. We cannot adopt the Muslim > religion, 
> >and love them at the same time, because every 
> >person who follows a > man made religion is 
> >going to Hell. I am so sorry I have to be this 
> >firm. I > would give up my life if it would stop 
> >the fact of people going to Hell. If > I could 
> >stop anyone from going to Hell by giving up my 
> >life by doing so, I > would give it up without 
> >thinking about it. Hell is a very true place, 
> >and > many are going there. Jesus is not a 
> >religion at all. Jesus is the only way > we can 
> >go to Heaven, and he is not a religion. I have 
> >been saying this for > years. No religion, even 
> >some man made Christian religion will get you 
> >to > Heaven. Only the Blood of Jesus given to 
> >you totally to you by free grace > will wash 
> >your sins clean so you can go to Heaven. You can 
> >do as many good > works as possible, and you 
> >will still sin, and the punishment for just 
> >one > sin is Hell. A person cannot work off 
> >their sins. Once you sin, you are > destined for 
> >Hell, right then and there, unless that sin is 
> >washed away. The > only way that one sin can be 
> >washed away, is by obeying the message of > 
> >salvation the Bible gives, and then for free, 
> >not by works, you will be > washed clean from 
> >all of your sins without doing one good work to 
> >have your > sins washed clean. This is a totally 
> >different message from the Islam > religion. 
> >This message from Jesus Christ is totally 
> >different than the > message of the Curran. 
> >Islam teaches that as long as you do more good 
> >works > than bad works, you will go to Heaven. 
> >In other words, if the good > out-weighs the 
> >bad, you will enter Heaven. Islam does not 
> >address the sins > that you have committed and 
> >how those sins are washed clean. Only God can > 
> >clean your sins away, and Jesus Christ is God. 
> >Muhammad is not God, He was > just any other 
> >man. Now, in my experience with Muslims becoming 
> >Christians, > the quansiquences were always 
> >great! I went to a large university, and I > 
> >witnessed five Muslims in our Bible Study 
> >becoming Christians. As soon as > these students 
> >became Christians, their parents said that they 
> >would kill > them if they saw them again. All 
> >five of these students were from different > 
> >places in the Middle East. Their parents 
> >disowned them, and we had to help > these 
> >students with all of their financial needs. 
> >These five students who > went from being Muslim 
> >to Christian, were never to see their siblings 
> >again. > I am just saying what I heard, and I 
> >knew these students. Now, Emanuel has > told me 
> >the same thing about his experience of becoming 
> >a Christian. > Emanuel's father wants to kill 
> >him. So, we must ask, is Islam the peaceful > 
> >religion that many wants to make it out to be? 
> >Women are killed if they are > raped, they are 
> >not allowed to drive, work, and they are raped 
> >by their > husbands all the time. In Saudi 
> >Arabia, women are stoned to death for being > 
> >raped so the disgrace may be taken away from the 
> >family. My, Christians do > not do this, no 
> >matter how crazy they are. Muhammad had his own 
> >army, and he > called Muslims to kill the 
> >infidel. I encourage Muslims to study their 
> >own > religion, because I love them so much. 
> >Muslims who read this, I love you > from the 
> >bottom of my heart. I want you to know the 
> >truth. Please do > research about who Muhammad 
> >was and how he lived his life compared to how > 
> >Jesus lived his life on this earth. Jesus said 
> >to turn the other cheek, and > believe me, 
> >Muhammad did not say that. You will find this 
> >out, once you do > real research into who 
> >Muhammad really was. I love you all, I really 
> >do. > When people say they except you, they do 
> >not mean it. I love you so much, > that I want 
> >you to have the relationship with Jesus Christ 
> >like I do. I want > you to experience the peace, 
> >joy, and happiness that I do. It all comes 
> >from > the inside. I don't need anything from 
> >this world to make me happy. Jesus > Christ 
> >gives me a joy that cannot be even put into 
> >words. I love you all, > and God bless you 
> >all, > David Moore > > -----Original 
> >Message----- > From: Ericka via Faith-Talk > 
> >Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2016 4:16 PM > To: 
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> >religion > Cc: Ericka > Subject: Re: 
> >[Faith-talk] {Spam?} SV: {Spam?} Orientalism > > 
> >Yes, Mostafa says he is. A rude one! > > You 
> >must have an interesting perspective Emmanuel. 
> >What your family did to > you remind me of what 
> >Amish do to family who leave or do not embrace 
> >their > fundementalist way of faith & simple 
> >lifestyle. > > Ericka > > from my iPhone 
> >6s > > > On Sep 3, 2016, at 4:31 AM, Emanuel via 
> >Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> > > 
> >wrote: > > > > Are you muslim ? > > > > 
> >-----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > > Från: 
> >Faith-Talk 
> >[mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] För 
> >Mostafa > > Almahdy via Faith-Talk > > Skickat: 
> >den 3 september 2016 11:26 > > Till: Faith-talk, 
> >for the discussion of faith and religion > > 
> ><faith-talk at nfbnet.org> > > Kopia: Mostafa 
> >Almahdy <mostafa.almahdy at gmail.com> > > Ämne: 
> >[Faith-talk] {Spam?} Orientalism > > > > 
> >Orientalism is an academic term used by scholars 
> >in art, history, > > literary, Theology, 
> >geography and cultural studies for the depiction 
> >of > > Eastern that is( Oriental cultures), 
> >including Middle Eastern, North > > African, 
> >South Asian and Southeast Asian cultures done by 
> >writers, > > designers, and artists from the 
> >West. In some western universities, these > > 
> >are called (Middle Eastern studies) or just 
> >(Eastern Studies) for short. > > This definition 
> >of Orientalism is actually taken from Wikipedia. 
> >There is > > another definition. > > Orientalism 
> >is a way of seeing that imagines, emphasizes, 
> >exaggerates and > > distorts differences of Arab 
> >peoples and cultures as compared to that of > > 
> >Europe and the United States. It often involves 
> >seeing Arab culture as > > exotic, backward, 
> >uncivilized, and at times dangerous. Well at 
> >this point, > > we must hold the cane from the 
> >middle. In other words, we must be fair. I > > 
> >have always told my fellows who reside in the 
> >west, that you shouldn’t put > > all western 
> >people in one basket. Each and every culture has 
> >different > > sapidities. There are mild, 
> >moderate and severe ones. One of my very 
> >close > > friends is a mechanical engineer. He 
> >studies and works in France. He > > worked in 
> >Germany before he moved to France recently. 
> >France is a bit > > closer to the States in its 
> >racial discrimination. Concerning Germany, 
> >he > > mentioned to me  quite positive and 
> >encouraging situations that he > > encountered 
> >with people there. What he mentioned to me 
> >defies unworthy > > Arab stereotypes about the 
> >west. So for instance, it refutes the > > 
> >stereotype of westerns being unaccommodating and 
> >insensate. Well, quite > > the opposite, he told 
> >me that people surrounded him treated him 
> >with > > recognized cordial and hospitable 
> >disposal. It also defies the stereotype > > of 
> >western women being so easy, voluptuous and 
> >daring. There are many of > > them who have 
> >ethical motive, virtue, they have erubescent and 
> >girlie > > shyness. He also mentioned to me 
> >situations that are sufficient to defy > > the 
> >stereotype of us being constantly despised in 
> >the west. It is a proper > > occasion to clarify 
> >my inimical stridence. Whom is it toward? It > > 
> >essentially is intended to campaign against the 
> >(Alt Right Movement). > > The best way to put it 
> >is to basically portray it in Trump’s 
> >camp. > > It’s a right-wing southern white 
> >supremacy. They aggress against anyone > > who 
> >is different from them. They are intolerant 
> >toward people with ethnic > > diversity. They 
> >often are misanthrope and dysphemistic. > > Many 
> >people in the west are not in favour of this 
> >hostile camp. I always > > make a significant 
> >difference between Europe and the United States. 
> >We can > > generically refer to Europeans as 
> >mostly reasonable, edified and > > open-minded. 
> >However, many Americans due to media dominance 
> >are largely > > disinformed, insulated and quite 
> >prejudiced about other parts of the > > world. 
> >This is why, American culture is quite 
> >marginalised, it began to be > > diminished in 
> >our region. Europe is the ideal substitute in my 
> >humble > > opinion. European nations are 
> >geographically closer to us. They have long > > 
> >history in affiliation with our region, either 
> >during Crusades or modern > > invasion. They 
> >learned a lot about us during neither era. This 
> >is why I > > don’t think they will return to 
> >engage against us once again. Of course, > > we 
> >won’t deny the existence of anti-Islam 
> >movements in many parts of > > Europe. It is 
> >natural to see such variation. The difference 
> >though, that > > the hostile camp in the States 
> >is quite active and possibly influential > > 
> >through their mass media whilst in Europe, they 
> >may not necessarily have > > this impact. In 
> >Europe, you may hear about charges of committing 
> >hate > > crimes either by unbearable acts or 
> >through abhorrent rhetoric. > > Well in the 
> >States, it’s unlikely to hear charges of hate 
> >crimes against > > detestable southerners, for 
> >instance. There are many key factors to > > 
> >critically differentiate between American and 
> >European cultures. Whilst > > both are 
> >classified as westernly orientated, there are 
> >major differences. > > First of which, is the 
> >social structure of each side. Europe is more 
> >open > > to welcoming various cultures and 
> >throughout its educational system, these > > 
> >cultures are smoothly desegregated. In the 
> >American camp, there are many > > communities 
> >inhabiting the same region, yet they are 
> >constantly skeptic > > and suspicious of each 
> >other. > > Most people in the States are 
> >obsessed with watching movies whilst > > 
> >relaxing. They are sort of television addicts. 
> >In contrast, Europeans like > > to read and they 
> >may not be as addicted to television as their 
> >rivals. For > > these reasons and more, I 
> >recommend shifting our focus to invest our > > 
> >interest and intellectually in particular with 
> >the European side. So > > Orientalism like any 
> >academic discipline, has its pros and cons. 
> >Thomas > > Carlyle is a prominent Scottish 
> >author and historian. He wrote about the > > 
> >French revolution and he had very positive 
> >perspectives concerning Muslims > > and prophet 
> >Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him). 
> >There are many > > orientalists who serve in 
> >this camp. Our role here is to collaborate 
> >with > > them and produce a mutual work that is 
> >based on deferentially scholastic > > approach. 
> >We also must allow a suitable room for 
> >worthwhile scrutiny. The > > west isn’t held 
> >accountable for our deplorable state of 
> >nescience. We > > ought to practically refine 
> >our education. I have read couple of 
> >textbooks > > on Orientalism in Arabic. Well, 
> >they both deal with the subject from the > > 
> >disputing standpoint. It essentially relies on 
> >the conspiratorial theory. > > It studies and 
> >examines Orientalism as a tool of 
> >Colonialism. > > It critically studies how 
> >Orientalists constantly portray Middle 
> >Eastern > > cultures as strange, awkward and 
> >often threatening to western liberty. > > Thus, 
> >it justifies western expeditions to Muslim 
> >lands. The United States > > uses Orientally 
> >prejudiced notions to justify its position from 
> >the Muslim > > world. If you listen to how 
> >American prominent figures speak, you will > > 
> >recognize their plain indulgence with slanted 
> >Orientalism. Islam is > > tactically expended to 
> >terrify and jeopardise lay Americans. The 
> >business > > of insistently demonizing and 
> >prejudiciously depicting Muslims as radical > > 
> >terrorists, murderers, plotters and 
> >fundamentally fanatics is the norm in > > 
> >America. The portrayal of the prophet (peace and 
> >blessings be upon him) as > > philanderer and 
> >paedophile makes us fathom the vicious American 
> >version of > > Orientalism. It is essentially 
> >based on obscene and terrifically salacious > > 
> >portrayals. The latter however, is a common 
> >characteristic of American > > society. The 
> >United States is filled with many social 
> >disintegrations, > > often pertained to 
> >misbehavior and sexual scandals. There are 
> >numerous > > incidents of incest reported in 
> >their country which left the subject of > > 
> >intercourse quite sick and bizarre. > > 
> >Therefore, they liken prophet Muhammad (peace 
> >and blessings be upon > > him) to the most 
> >horrible practice they ever noticed. This taste 
> >of > > Oriental literature is not the only one 
> >of this discipline. There is > > another version 
> >which is classified as the relatively impartial 
> >side. > > It somewhat portrays the moderate 
> >approach. It studies Islamic culture for > > the 
> >purpose of recognizing interdependencies. It 
> >often avoids engaging in > > provocative 
> >subjects. It may not be as active as we would 
> >like it but, it > > fairly exists. Nevertheless, 
> >the prepossessing approach is more likely to > > 
> >be affective due to predominantly vast American 
> >dominance. As hellion > > Donald Trump once 
> >uttered in one of his despicable speeches, 
> >Americanism > > is not Globalism. Therefore, we 
> >ought to really be careful, there are > > 
> >substantial attempts to Americanise even western 
> >cultures. This is why I > > said to my friends 
> >living in Europe, that we need to tenaciously 
> >unite to > > confront this manipulating power, 
> >which attempts to deviously dominate us. > > It 
> >essentially relies on racially disparaging 
> >remarks, bigotry and > > detrimental sentiments. 
> >The United States is quite popular for 
> >issuing > > visas to fraudsters. They issue 
> >visas to people whom they like to hear > > their 
> >plainly counterfeit chronicles about being 
> >supposedly, ex Muslims, > > ha-ha. I on multiple 
> >occasions asked U.S pastors to openly confront 
> >me on > > that regard. Until this moment, they 
> >never wrote me back and they probably > > 
> >won’t. I would like to ask people who  work 
> >for U.S embassies a straight > > question that 
> >demands a direct and denotative answer. If 
> >someone caught > > indictable of being 
> >mendacious or unclear about his past, as if he 
> >said he > > was Muslim and he wasn’t or, he 
> >lied about some of his credit contingents, > > 
> >would you issue this person a > > visa?     
> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 
> >Â Â  Please, yes or no. I specifically > > 
> >address Americans who like to incorrectly assume 
> >us popping off to > > immigrate to their 
> >country, your presumption isn’t correct. I am 
> >not > > particularly desperate about obtaining 
> >your visas nor residing in your > > country 
> >legally or illegally. It may be challenging 
> >economically here at > > home but, I’d better 
> >find somewhere else to settle dignifiedly. The 
> >United > > States is impeached of substantially 
> >secernating ethnicities based on > > racial 
> >disparities. That has been proven repeatedly 
> >through the last > > couple of months. American 
> >Orientalism is held accountable > > for this 
> >Â  chaotic disarray. American Orientalism is the 
> >chief shamed > > of religious uncertainty. There 
> >are many people who tend to ramble between > > 
> >various isms purposelessly. Religion is 
> >disapproved in the United States > > despite 
> >insignificant proclamations of being allegedly a 
> >Christian nation. > > What are we to commend or 
> >repudiate about this state of iniquity. This 
> >is > > a nation which carries an evangelical 
> >banner, yet it has officially > > accredited 
> >same sex marriage as licit last year. I have 
> >discussed this > > subject with many Christian 
> >devotees therein. Many of them thought it > > 
> >couldn’t be delt with, whilst others gave 
> >credit to separating faith and > > civil 
> >affairs. This is a decisive evident of how 
> >paradoxical the United > > States is. American 
> >Orientalism is often expatiated to odiously 
> >parallel > > between Jihad and terrorism. This 
> >is why we ought to embrace a > > scrupulously 
> >countering scheme. My role here is to establish 
> >solid ground > > for scrutiny, preferably with 
> >European academe. It confidently has been > > 
> >proved to be theologically impartial, far from 
> >either explicit hostility > > or disingenuous 
> >flattery. As I mentioned earlier in this piece 
> >of > > composition, they are casually expected 
> >to fairly disagree with some of > > what we 
> >assert but, they are highly competent to do so 
> >in prestigiously > > academic manner. > > The 
> >rising tide of Islamophobia visible in 
> >mainstream political circles > > and reflected 
> >in the media leaves the Muslim community 
> >intemperately > > susceptible to confront major 
> >threats. Racist and Islamophobic rhetoric > > 
> >has already translated into violent and deadly 
> >incidents across the > > States, with further 
> >armed threats directed at Muslim institutions 
> >and > > individuals now almost a daily 
> >occurrence. > > These incidents are deliberately 
> >unnoticed. We need a greater, more > > sustained 
> >response that both examines the roots of 
> >Islamophobia and > > provides the empirical data 
> >to quantify the problem. Only then, we can > > 
> >develop the tools required to educate 
> >policymakers and civil society on > > how best 
> >to counter this longstanding crisis. Christian 
> >and secular > > orientalists of the United 
> >States are injurious of repulsively 
> >aspersing > > Islam with enormous ignominy and 
> >detrimental disparagement. > > The deficiency of 
> >renowned let alone ordinary edification is the 
> >chief > > cause for the rise of such insolence. 
> >There might be some Americans who > > treat the 
> >subject objectively. Most of them, however, are 
> >unevenly > > indoctrinated. I’ll repeat this 
> >statement, if Americans weren’t easy to > > 
> >fool, someone like Donald Trump would have not 
> >been nominated for > > Republican candidature. 
> >Despite his unambiguously inflammatory remarks, 
> >he > > is supported and widely embraced across 
> >their country. > > Despite his appallingly 
> >intolerable sentiments which were highly 
> >offensive > > to each and everyone, he is 
> >continuously endorsed. Despite his 
> >constantly > > contradicting and simultaneously 
> >assaultive statements, he hasn’t been > > 
> >expelled from the presidential race. Donald 
> >Trump is eminently embraced in > > spite of his 
> >incredible disqualifications because he says 
> >what most > > Americans like to hear. Donald 
> >Trump is tremendously disqualified, yet he > > 
> >is the beseeming president for who lay Americans 
> >are. If you want to look > > at actual 
> >Americans, just look at Trump’s spirit. You 
> >don’t have to > > exhaust yourselves with 
> >engaging in pretension of counterfeit 
> >diplomacy, > > we recognize what American manner 
> >is. I don’t think I’ll ever commit the > > 
> >mistake of believing my enemy. American 
> >Orientalism is the one to describe > > as 
> >imbecile, disinforming and extraordinarily 
> >ignominious in the > > slightest. > > Clifford 
> >Wilson, you previously mentioned to me that you 
> >studied world > > religions but you never heard 
> >of the  term Orientalism. Well I hope you > > 
> >now have a glimpse of what it is. Mister Wilson, 
> >I suppose you are > > sufficiently aware of the 
> >broad repudiation to your explicitly > > 
> >disheartening supremacy. Your regionally Mexican 
> >neighbors are the first > > to be troubled with 
> >this. Donald Trump on Mexico is 
> >unprecedentedly > > paradoxical. When he spoke 
> >about Mexico to his rallies, he spoke with > > 
> >intolerable belligerence. But when he spoke to 
> >Mexican officials, his tone > > of voice has 
> >changed. This is quite typical for American 
> >manner. They > > speak at our face with a 
> >softened tone, but when they speak to their > > 
> >allies, they often change their tune. This is 
> >their typical paradox. I won’t > > ever speak 
> >to people with ambidextrous. I am plain to 
> >people whether I am > > friend or enemy to them. 
> >My temperament is essentially based on 
> >clarity > > and honesty. This is how I strongly 
> >built my various relationships with > > people 
> >domestically and overseas. So please Clifford, 
> >you may discern that > > I consider you from the 
> >camp that I’ll stand firm against. The reason 
> >for > > that is your demonstratively southern 
> >manner. You mentioned in an e-mail > > to a mass 
> >list for the American Council of the blind that 
> >you are > > seventy-two years old, that means 
> >you are considered a senior citizen in > > the 
> >States. I urge you sir to thoroughly be edified 
> >about other parts of > > the world. Your 
> >quarantined and heavily persuaded southern 
> >region is a > > decisive barrier for reputed 
> >edification. Mister Wilson, I fairly 
> >consider > > myself more educated than you. I 
> >fluently speak and properly compose in a > > 
> >highly notable form of your  language, yet you 
> >barely type in colloquially > > American 
> >English. I of course am not sure about your 
> >speaking competency. > > Now we can see where 
> >the cultural gap come from. I again, urge you 
> >to > > fairly revise the facts I just outlined 
> >and then ask yourself, is it > > necessarily 
> >that an individual coming from a sophisticated 
> >nation to be > > more educated than someone who 
> >comes from a developing one? People here > > are 
> >constantly bewildered, they want to adhere their 
> >identity whilst > > looking up to western 
> >civilization with considerable attraction. I 
> >treat > > the matter with a moderate 
> >proposition. I admittedly recognize western > > 
> >significant advancement on technology and 
> >contemporary education. At the > > same time, I 
> >steadfastly adhere my heritage and tradition. 
> >With both in > > mind, I am able to fairly stand 
> >between recognizing western advancement > > and 
> >Muslim traditionality. They both are fairly 
> >consolidative. Unlike > > predominantly 
> >secularized Muslims, I am not influenced with 
> >western > > manipulation. I recognize that my 
> >religion enjoins me to relentlessly seek > > 
> >knowledge. I am aware of what Muslim scholars 
> >have substantially > > contributed to various 
> >scientific fields as the prominently 
> >outstanding > > Muslim physician and 
> >philosopher, (Abu Ali al-Husain ibn Abdallah 
> >ibn > > Sina). Western orientalists have altered 
> >his name to (Avicenna) in order > > to somehow 
> >conceal his Muslim identity. I also recognize 
> >that in their > > numerous encyclopedias, they 
> >altered the name of prominent Muslim > > 
> >philosopher and initial interpreter of Aristotle 
> >works into Arabic. They > > altered his name 
> >from > > (Ibn-Roshd) to a mispronounced name, 
> >they called him  (Averroes) in order > > to 
> >again, withdraw his Muslim identity. This is a 
> >common practice of > > Christians. They did so 
> >to their own scriptures in order to make 
> >them > > basically suit what they like, they did 
> >so to make them suit their > > interest. There 
> >are many instances of what I call biblical 
> >revisal for > > theological motivation. They 
> >purposely pick up the translation that suits > > 
> >their interest of the text and preach it outloud 
> >to their disinformed > > congregations. Well 
> >gratefully, we aren’t consented to do so to 
> >the Noble > > Koran. Its sacred text is 
> >infinitely intact and Providentially 
> >preserved. > > Even when we translate the Koran 
> >into different languages, we recognize > > that 
> >it is a humanly contribution. Thus, it is 
> >consequently susceptible to > > error. This is 
> >why, it’s vitally necessary to revise and 
> >countercheck > > Koran translations and 
> >instantly correct them where that is 
> >relevant. > > Christian evangelists and 
> >orientalists aren’t so outspoken about the 
> >text > > at their hands nor they fairly look 
> >into the credibility of the > > translator. The 
> >King James version is a widely recognized and 
> >trusted > > edition of the Holy Bible in 
> >Christian English speaking communities. > > 
> >However, it has been later declared fallible and 
> >thus, a revised standard > > edition had to be 
> >written. Those are the ones who purposely evoke 
> >doubts > > about Islam in lay Muslim minds. 
> >Those are the ones who attempt to distort > > 
> >Islam in either a diplomatic or a hostilely 
> >manner. > > Don’t ever assume that the 
> >intention of those who often speak gently is 
> >so > > innocent. It is quite inconsistent for a 
> >Muslim to go study Islam in their > > colleges, 
> >it’s utterly nonsensical. When I said we 
> >demand to collaborate > > with them on that 
> >regard, I basically meant that Muslim 
> >certified > > theologians, clerics and renowned 
> >scholars are to be opted to lecture > > abroad, 
> >to teach those orientalists about the proper 
> >discernment of > > Islamic Theology. A mutually 
> >academic practice has to be broadened. The > > 
> >purpose of this has to primarily be based on 
> >illustrating Muslim culture > > to the western 
> >world. There are many publications on Islam in 
> >many > > libraries. However, they mostly lack 
> >the least of critical examination > > which is 
> >accredited citation. > > Orientalism is not 
> >particularly accurate about multiple Islamic 
> >subjects. > > They express their perspective 
> >about them. This is why I find it so > > strange 
> >for a Muslim to study Islam in western 
> >universities. I actually > > was interested to 
> >do so. But, after studying Orientalism and its 
> >essence, > > I completely changed my mind. I 
> >decisively recognize that Orientalism > > 
> >factors aren’t intended for devotion nor even 
> >for scholarly objectives. > > They rather are 
> >intended for cultural disarray and religious 
> >imbalance. As > > all we know, religion is not 
> >particularly prised in western traditions. > > 
> >This is why, western orientalists may not be 
> >able to fathom its crucial > > role in our daily 
> >life. In the United States, there are pliable 
> >masses of > > people ripe for propaganda. This 
> >is why it’s quite difficult to educate > > 
> >people there. September has just began, and this 
> >is the month during > > Muslims are threatened 
> >of being subjected to demeaning search and 
> >seizure > > in U.S airports for damnable 
> >security reasons. I know someone who during > > 
> >2011, arrived at Miami’s airport on 9-11 
> >anniversary. He faced > > inappropriate 
> >attitude, racial discrimination, he had been 
> >sequestered in > > a dark room, he had been 
> >asked intolerable questions whether he was > > 
> >affiliated with terrorist organisations, why did 
> >he go to Saudi and other > > ridiculous stuff. 
> >His luggage then were opened disrespectfully and 
> >all > > items were indiscriminately thrown on 
> >the floor. He arrived at almost > > 11:00 in the 
> >morning, yet he left the airport after midnight 
> >when there > > was no transportation to pick 
> >him. > > Incidentally, he looked quite secular. 
> >If someone chose to visit this > > country in 
> >such time, he should not blame but himself. 
> >Orientalism is a > > wide subject. I attempted 
> >to get through some of its principles. > > 
> >(Edward Said) is the best author on Orientalism. 
> >Now, if this is the month > > of recalling 9-11, 
> >I have one question for American recipients. > > 
> >How could a civil jet fly into the Pentagon’s 
> >airspace, crash into it > > without being 
> >instantaneously detected? I intended to test 
> >your > > intelligence versus what you are told. 
> >Trust me Americans, you have got > > much to 
> >learn about lots of things. I won’t ever visit 
> >your country in > > such time of the year, time 
> >of ignorance and irrational fear. I won’t 
> >ever > > visit unless I am treated civilly and 
> >properly. I won’t ever tolerate > > improper 
> >screening or damnable search and seizure. > > I 
> >am convinced that media controls what people 
> >believe allover the world, > > yet it has the 
> >biggest influence on Americans. They have no 
> >control out of > > it. Media, television, 
> >journalism, online publication and video taping 
> >are > > the tools by which people are dominated 
> >in the States. That is the vital > > proof for 
> >dominating capitalism. People who have got money 
> >could do > > anything even, run for president 
> >despite their plain incompetency. Unlike > > 
> >many people in my part of the world, I am not 
> >deceived about what the > > United States is. It 
> >may look attractive outwardly but inwardly, 
> >it’s > > fragile. I am disliked there because 
> >unlike Donald Trump, I don’t write > > what 
> >most Americans like to hear. I am used to 
> >typical American ignorance > > and discourtesy, 
> >even if they attempt to pretend otherwise. My 
> >writing > > style has to continue because I 
> >believe I have independent freedom to > > 
> >express my opinion in whatever manner. I feel 
> >dignified not falling in the > > manipulating 
> >camp. Well, I suppose I am done with this piece. 
> >It’s close > > to noon time here in Cairo. I 
> >commend you for patiently reading through, > > 
> >Mostafa > > > > > > -- > > (Seeking knowledge is 
> >compulsory from cratle to grave because it is a > > shoreless ocean.) > > > 
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