[Faith-talk] {Spam?} The Purpose of This List

[David Andrews]

Well, everybody here is not a Christian, that is part of the point of 
all this discussion.  It however, doesn't mean that they aren't 
people of faith though.

I do not necessarily want to stop the discussion of the bible, or 
other texts, but I would like it better if people were a little more 
tolerant of others and their views. Unfortunately many people have 
two tendencies, 1. they want to be right, and 2. those with strong 
beliefs often want to convert and/or convince others.

We are the National Federation of the Blind, and they pay the bills 
for this list, and others. Consequently, some of what we discuss 
should be NFB and/or blindness related.  Don't get excited, I said 
some, not all. With any list each of us has to be tolerant of what 
she considers to be off-topic stuff.

David Andrews, List Owner


At 06:48 PM 9/4/2016, you wrote:
>Yes. Debby this should be our focus. Just because we are all 
>Christian on this list at this time does not mean that all 
>Christians look at the Bible the same way. I am not a 
>nondenominational and don't take the Bible literally.
>
>Ericka Short
>1750 Fordem Ave. #508
>Madison. WI. 53704
>608-665-3170
>
>  from my iPhone 6s
>
> > On Sep 4, 2016, at 8:45 AM, debby via Faith-Talk 
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Perhaps we could start out fresh "telling about what kinds of 
> ministries we are involved in. For instance, some of you teach 
> Sunday school. Perhaps you could share with us where you get your 
> materials, and how you selved any pro#ms that you had, or perhaps 
> are looking for solutions. Some people sing in choirs. Some people 
> preach. Perhaps some people are thinking about getting ingholved in 
> new ways, and have questions about how they might do that. So I'll start.
> >
> > Currently I sing in our church choir. I have not found a source 
> for braille lyrics for many of the songs we sing, so my husband 
> dictates them !me. I now have two huge notebooks with lyrics only. 
> I never learned !read Braille music, and that's okay, because I can 
> generY follow along until I have memorized the notes. I ges some 
> materials for study and such from Xavier Society for the Blind, and 
> have found a way !pray the Divine Office, which is divided 
> inffvarious times of the day. This form of prayer has gone on since 
> the 5th or 6th century, and probably before. Not all Catholics pray 
> the Divine Office, but priests, and nuns and some others do. This 
> form of prayer uses the Psalms and other Scriptures. Of course, we 
> pray sfontaneously throughout the day as well. I use an app called 
> Universalis, as it is porta and I can just pray using my phone. The 
> one issue I have right now is trying !find a source for a book 
> called The Rule of Saint Benedict. Someone is supposed to be 
> helping me, but I have not heard from him in a while so I cay need 
> to email him again. Well, I need !get ready to go to Mass, so take 
> care and God bless.    Debby
> >
> >> On Sep 4, 2016 1:04 AM, Linda Mentink via Faith-Talk 
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Well, time was when a lot of blind people were not able to
> >> participate in the ministries of their communities of faith,
> >> either because they couldn't get materials in an accessible
> >> format, they weren't wanted, they were set aside and told that
> >> they could just come and be ministered to, and the like.  Some
> >> were, and still are told that the leaders do not want any
> >> handicapped people in their congregations.  The division, and
> >> hence this list, were formed to help folks out there.  We don't
> >> hear about things like that so much any more, but our president
> >> does on occasion.
> >>
> >> The original intent was that the dvvision and the list would be
> >> open to anyone of any faith.  However, the membership in both is
> >> mostly Christian because people of other faiths have not
> >> participated.
> >>
> >> I have no idea where Muslim materials for the blind can be found.
> >> The question has never been asked, partly because Muslims don't
> >> interact here, most likely.
> >>
> >> What can we talk about? I'm not sure, now that David seems to be
> >> unhappy with our discussions. I'm really going to have a problem
> >> moderating, and being a part of a list where questions about the
> >> Bible cannot be asked and answered, and we can't post prayer
> >> requests occasionally.  That's been a lot of what we do here
> >> lately, and it has benefited many.  After all, that's a big part
> >> of the discussion of faith and religion.
> >>
> >> I don't know what David means by "splitting hairs".  I hope he
> >> doesn't mean that we can't tell people how the Bible says we
> >> should live, since most of us believe that Bible and read it
> >> regulary, and worship the God who inspired it.
> >>
> >> Now I'm going back to bed so that I can hopefully be refreshed
> >> and alert to worship that God!
> >>
> >> Blessings,
> >>
> >> Linda