[Faith-talk] {Spam?} Re: {Spam?} Re: {Spam?} SV: {Spam?} Orientalism

[Ashley Bramlett]

Emanuel,
While I am a Christian, I cannot accept that all religions are false.
I am offended by your pronouncements about it. Remember this is for all 
faiths not just christians. Please be careful what you write.
Ashley

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From: Emanuel via Faith-Talk
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Subject: [Faith-talk] {Spam?} Re: {Spam?} SV: {Spam?} Orientalism

Islam is false !!!!!!!!!!!
Skickat från min kapsys

Ericka via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> skrev:

>Yes, Mostafa says he is. A rude one!
>
>You must have an interesting perspective Emmanuel. What your family did to 
>you remind me of what Amish do to family who leave or do not embrace their 
>fundementalist way of faith & simple lifestyle.
>
>Ericka
>
> from my iPhone 6s
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>> On Sep 3, 2016, at 4:31 AM, Emanuel via Faith-Talk 
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Are you muslim ?
>>
>> -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
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>> Kopia: Mostafa Almahdy <mostafa.almahdy at gmail.com>
>> Ämne: [Faith-talk] {Spam?} Orientalism
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>> Orientalism is an academic term used by scholars in art, history, 
>> literary, Theology, geography and cultural studies for the depiction of 
>> Eastern that is( Oriental cultures), including Middle Eastern, North 
>> African, South Asian and Southeast Asian cultures done by writers, 
>> designers, and artists from the West. In some western universities, these 
>> are called (Middle Eastern studies) or just (Eastern Studies) for short. 
>> This definition of Orientalism is actually taken from Wikipedia. There is 
>> another definition.
>> Orientalism is a way of seeing that imagines, emphasizes, exaggerates and 
>> distorts differences of Arab peoples and cultures as compared to that of 
>> Europe and the United States. It often involves seeing Arab culture as 
>> exotic, backward, uncivilized, and at times dangerous. Well at this 
>> point, we must hold the cane from the middle. In other words, we must be 
>> fair. I have always told my fellows who reside in the west, that you 
>> shouldn’t put all western people in one basket. Each and every culture 
>> has different sapidities. There are mild, moderate and severe ones. One 
>> of my very close friends is a mechanical engineer. He studies and works 
>> in France. He worked in Germany before he moved to France recently. 
>> France is a bit closer to the States in its racial discrimination. 
>> Concerning Germany, he mentioned to me  quite positive and encouraging 
>> situations that he encountered with people there. What he mentioned to me 
>> defies unworthy Arab stereotypes about the west. So for instance, it 
>> refutes the stereotype of westerns being unaccommodating and insensate. 
>> Well, quite the opposite, he told me that people surrounded him treated 
>> him with recognized cordial and hospitable disposal. It also defies the 
>> stereotype of western women being so easy, voluptuous and daring. There 
>> are many of them who have ethical motive, virtue, they have erubescent 
>> and girlie shyness. He also mentioned to me situations that are 
>> sufficient to defy the stereotype of us being constantly despised in the 
>> west. It is a proper occasion to clarify my inimical stridence. Whom is 
>> it toward? It essentially is intended to campaign against the (Alt Right 
>> Movement).
>> The best way to put it is to basically portray it in Trump’s camp.
>> It’s a right-wing southern white supremacy. They aggress against anyone 
>> who is different from them. They are intolerant toward people with ethnic 
>> diversity. They often are misanthrope and dysphemistic.
>> Many people in the west are not in favour of this hostile camp. I always 
>> make a significant difference between Europe and the United States. We 
>> can generically refer to Europeans as mostly reasonable, edified and 
>> open-minded. However, many Americans due to media dominance are largely 
>> disinformed, insulated and quite prejudiced about other parts of the 
>> world. This is why, American culture is quite marginalised, it began to 
>> be diminished in our region. Europe is the ideal substitute in my humble 
>> opinion. European nations are geographically closer to us. They have long 
>> history in affiliation with our region, either during Crusades or modern 
>> invasion. They learned a lot about us during neither era. This is why I 
>> don’t think they will return to engage against us once again. Of course, 
>> we won’t deny the existence of anti-Islam movements in many parts of 
>> Europe. It is natural to see such variation. The difference though, that 
>> the hostile camp in the States is quite active and possibly influential 
>> through their mass media whilst in Europe, they may not necessarily have 
>> this impact. In Europe, you may hear about charges of committing hate 
>> crimes either by unbearable acts or through abhorrent rhetoric.
>> Well in the States, it’s unlikely to hear charges of hate crimes against 
>> detestable southerners, for instance. There are many key factors to 
>> critically differentiate between American and European cultures. Whilst 
>> both are classified as westernly orientated, there are major differences. 
>> First of which, is the social structure of each side. Europe is more open 
>> to welcoming various cultures and throughout its educational system, 
>> these cultures are smoothly desegregated. In the American camp, there are 
>> many communities inhabiting the same region, yet they are constantly 
>> skeptic and suspicious of each other.
>> Most people in the States are obsessed with watching movies whilst 
>> relaxing. They are sort of television addicts. In contrast, Europeans 
>> like to read and they may not be as addicted to television as their 
>> rivals. For these reasons and more, I recommend shifting our focus to 
>> invest our interest and intellectually in particular with the European 
>> side. So Orientalism like any academic discipline, has its pros and cons. 
>> Thomas Carlyle is a prominent Scottish author and historian. He wrote 
>> about the French revolution and he had very positive perspectives 
>> concerning Muslims and prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon 
>> him). There are many orientalists who serve in this camp. Our role here 
>> is to collaborate with them and produce a mutual work that is based on 
>> deferentially scholastic approach. We also must allow a suitable room for 
>> worthwhile scrutiny. The west isn’t held accountable for our deplorable 
>> state of nescience. We ought to practically refine our education. I have 
>> read couple of textbooks on Orientalism in Arabic. Well, they both deal 
>> with the subject from the disputing standpoint. It essentially relies on 
>> the conspiratorial theory. It studies and examines Orientalism as a tool 
>> of Colonialism.
>> It critically studies how Orientalists constantly portray Middle Eastern 
>> cultures as strange, awkward and often threatening to western liberty. 
>> Thus, it justifies western expeditions to Muslim lands. The United States 
>> uses Orientally prejudiced notions to justify its position from the 
>> Muslim world. If you listen to how American prominent figures speak, you 
>> will recognize their plain indulgence with slanted Orientalism. Islam is 
>> tactically expended to terrify and jeopardise lay Americans. The business 
>> of insistently demonizing and prejudiciously depicting Muslims as radical 
>> terrorists, murderers, plotters and fundamentally fanatics is the norm in 
>> America. The portrayal of the prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) 
>> as philanderer and paedophile makes us fathom the vicious American 
>> version of Orientalism. It is essentially based on obscene and 
>> terrifically salacious portrayals. The latter however, is a common 
>> characteristic of American society. The United States is filled with many 
>> social disintegrations, often pertained to misbehavior and sexual 
>> scandals. There are numerous incidents of incest reported in their 
>> country which left the subject of intercourse quite sick and bizarre.
>> Therefore, they liken prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon
>> him) to the most horrible practice they ever noticed. This taste of 
>> Oriental literature is not the only one of this discipline. There is 
>> another version which is classified as the relatively impartial side.
>> It somewhat portrays the moderate approach. It studies Islamic culture 
>> for the purpose of recognizing interdependencies. It often avoids 
>> engaging in provocative subjects. It may not be as active as we would 
>> like it but, it fairly exists. Nevertheless, the prepossessing approach 
>> is more likely to be affective due to predominantly vast American 
>> dominance. As hellion Donald Trump once uttered in one of his despicable 
>> speeches, Americanism is not Globalism. Therefore, we ought to really be 
>> careful, there are substantial attempts to Americanise even western 
>> cultures. This is why I said to my friends living in Europe, that we need 
>> to tenaciously unite to confront this manipulating power, which attempts 
>> to deviously dominate us. It essentially relies on racially disparaging 
>> remarks, bigotry and detrimental sentiments. The United States is quite 
>> popular for issuing visas to fraudsters. They issue visas to people whom 
>> they like to hear their plainly counterfeit chronicles about being 
>> supposedly, ex Muslims, ha-ha. I on multiple occasions asked U.S pastors 
>> to openly confront me on that regard. Until this moment, they never wrote 
>> me back and they probably won’t. I would like to ask people who  work for 
>> U.S embassies a straight question that demands a direct and denotative 
>> answer. If someone caught indictable of being mendacious or unclear about 
>> his past, as if he said he was Muslim and he wasn’t or, he lied about 
>> some of his credit contingents, would you issue this person a
>> visa?                                Please, yes or no. I specifically
>> address Americans who like to incorrectly assume us popping off to 
>> immigrate to their country, your presumption isn’t correct. I am not 
>> particularly desperate about obtaining your visas nor residing in your 
>> country legally or illegally. It may be challenging economically here at 
>> home but, I’d better find somewhere else to settle dignifiedly. The 
>> United States is impeached of substantially secernating ethnicities based 
>> on racial disparities. That has been proven repeatedly through the last 
>> couple of months. American Orientalism is held accountable
>> for this   chaotic disarray. American Orientalism is the chief shamed
>> of religious uncertainty. There are many people who tend to ramble 
>> between various isms purposelessly. Religion is disapproved in the United 
>> States despite insignificant proclamations of being allegedly a Christian 
>> nation. What are we to commend or repudiate about this state of iniquity. 
>> This is a nation which carries an evangelical banner, yet it has 
>> officially accredited same sex marriage as licit last year. I have 
>> discussed this subject with many Christian devotees therein. Many of them 
>> thought it couldn’t be delt with, whilst others gave credit to separating 
>> faith and civil affairs. This is a decisive evident of how paradoxical 
>> the United States is. American Orientalism is often expatiated to 
>> odiously parallel between Jihad and terrorism. This is why we ought to 
>> embrace a scrupulously countering scheme. My role here is to establish 
>> solid ground for scrutiny, preferably with European academe. It 
>> confidently has been proved to be theologically impartial, far from 
>> either explicit hostility or disingenuous flattery. As I mentioned 
>> earlier in this piece of composition, they are casually expected to 
>> fairly disagree with some of what we assert but, they are highly 
>> competent to do so in prestigiously academic manner.
>> The rising tide of Islamophobia visible in mainstream political circles 
>> and reflected in the media leaves the Muslim community intemperately 
>> susceptible to confront major threats. Racist and Islamophobic rhetoric 
>> has already translated into violent and deadly incidents across the 
>> States, with further armed threats directed at Muslim institutions and 
>> individuals now almost a daily occurrence.
>> These incidents are deliberately unnoticed. We need a greater, more 
>> sustained response that both examines the roots of Islamophobia and 
>> provides the empirical data to quantify the problem. Only then, we can 
>> develop the tools required to educate policymakers and civil society on 
>> how best to counter this longstanding crisis. Christian and secular 
>> orientalists of the United States are injurious of repulsively aspersing 
>> Islam with enormous ignominy and detrimental disparagement.
>> The deficiency of renowned let alone ordinary edification is the chief 
>> cause for the rise of such insolence. There might be some Americans who 
>> treat the subject objectively. Most of them, however, are unevenly 
>> indoctrinated. I’ll repeat this statement, if Americans weren’t easy to 
>> fool, someone like Donald Trump would have not been nominated for 
>> Republican candidature. Despite his unambiguously inflammatory remarks, 
>> he is supported and widely embraced across their country.
>> Despite his appallingly intolerable sentiments which were highly 
>> offensive to each and everyone, he is continuously endorsed. Despite his 
>> constantly contradicting and simultaneously assaultive statements, he 
>> hasn’t been expelled from the presidential race. Donald Trump is 
>> eminently embraced in spite of his incredible disqualifications because 
>> he says what most Americans like to hear. Donald Trump is tremendously 
>> disqualified, yet he is the beseeming president for who lay Americans 
>> are. If you want to look at actual Americans, just look at Trump’s 
>> spirit. You don’t have to exhaust yourselves with engaging in pretension 
>> of counterfeit diplomacy, we recognize what American manner is. I don’t 
>> think I’ll ever commit the mistake of believing my enemy. American 
>> Orientalism is the one to describe as imbecile, disinforming and 
>> extraordinarily ignominious in the slightest.
>> Clifford Wilson, you previously mentioned to me that you studied world 
>> religions but you never heard of the  term Orientalism. Well I hope you 
>> now have a glimpse of what it is. Mister Wilson, I suppose you are 
>> sufficiently aware of the broad repudiation to your explicitly 
>> disheartening supremacy. Your regionally Mexican neighbors are the first 
>> to be troubled with this. Donald Trump on Mexico is unprecedentedly 
>> paradoxical. When he spoke about Mexico to his rallies, he spoke with 
>> intolerable belligerence. But when he spoke to Mexican officials, his 
>> tone of voice has changed. This is quite typical for American manner. 
>> They speak at our face with a softened tone, but when they speak to their 
>> allies, they often change their tune. This is their typical paradox. I 
>> won’t ever speak to people with ambidextrous. I am plain to people 
>> whether I am friend or enemy to them. My temperament is essentially based 
>> on clarity and honesty. This is how I strongly built my various 
>> relationships with people domestically and overseas. So please Clifford, 
>> you may discern that I consider you from the camp that I’ll stand firm 
>> against. The reason for that is your demonstratively southern manner. You 
>> mentioned in an e-mail to a mass list for the American Council of the 
>> blind that you are seventy-two years old, that means you are considered a 
>> senior citizen in the States. I urge you sir to thoroughly be edified 
>> about other parts of the world. Your quarantined and heavily persuaded 
>> southern region is a decisive barrier for reputed edification. Mister 
>> Wilson, I fairly consider myself more educated than you. I fluently speak 
>> and properly compose in a highly notable form of your  language, yet you 
>> barely type in colloquially American English. I of course am not sure 
>> about your speaking competency. Now we can see where the cultural gap 
>> come from. I again, urge you to fairly revise the facts I just outlined 
>> and then ask yourself, is it necessarily that an individual coming from a 
>> sophisticated nation to be more educated than someone who comes from a 
>> developing one? People here are constantly bewildered, they want to 
>> adhere their identity whilst looking up to western civilization with 
>> considerable attraction. I treat the matter with a moderate proposition. 
>> I admittedly recognize western significant advancement on technology and 
>> contemporary education. At the same time, I steadfastly adhere my 
>> heritage and tradition. With both in mind, I am able to fairly stand 
>> between recognizing western advancement and Muslim traditionality. They 
>> both are fairly consolidative. Unlike predominantly secularized Muslims, 
>> I am not influenced with western manipulation. I recognize that my 
>> religion enjoins me to relentlessly seek knowledge. I am aware of what 
>> Muslim scholars have substantially contributed to various scientific 
>> fields as the prominently outstanding Muslim physician and philosopher, 
>> (Abu Ali al-Husain ibn Abdallah ibn Sina). Western orientalists have 
>> altered his name to (Avicenna) in order to somehow conceal his Muslim 
>> identity. I also recognize that in their numerous encyclopedias, they 
>> altered the name of prominent Muslim philosopher and initial interpreter 
>> of Aristotle works into Arabic. They altered his name from
>> (Ibn-Roshd) to a mispronounced name, they called him  (Averroes) in order 
>> to again, withdraw his Muslim identity. This is a common practice of 
>> Christians. They did so to their own scriptures in order to make them 
>> basically suit what they like, they did so to make them suit their 
>> interest. There are many instances of what I call biblical revisal for 
>> theological motivation. They purposely pick up the translation that suits 
>> their interest of the text and preach it outloud to their disinformed 
>> congregations. Well gratefully, we aren’t consented to do so to the Noble 
>> Koran. Its sacred text is infinitely intact and Providentially preserved. 
>> Even when we translate the Koran into different languages, we recognize 
>> that it is a humanly contribution. Thus, it is consequently susceptible 
>> to error. This is why, it’s vitally necessary to revise and countercheck 
>> Koran translations and instantly correct them where that is relevant.
>> Christian evangelists and orientalists aren’t so outspoken about the text 
>> at their hands nor they fairly look into the credibility of the 
>> translator. The King James version is a widely recognized and trusted 
>> edition of the Holy Bible in Christian English speaking communities.
>> However, it has been later declared fallible and thus, a revised standard 
>> edition had to be written. Those are the ones who purposely evoke doubts 
>> about Islam in lay Muslim minds. Those are the ones who attempt to 
>> distort Islam in either a diplomatic or a hostilely manner.
>> Don’t ever assume that the intention of those who often speak gently is 
>> so innocent. It is quite inconsistent for a Muslim to go study Islam in 
>> their colleges, it’s utterly nonsensical. When I said we demand to 
>> collaborate with them on that regard, I basically meant that Muslim 
>> certified theologians, clerics and renowned scholars are to be opted to 
>> lecture abroad, to teach those orientalists about the proper discernment 
>> of Islamic Theology. A mutually academic practice has to be broadened. 
>> The purpose of this has to primarily be based on illustrating Muslim 
>> culture to the western world. There are many publications on Islam in 
>> many libraries. However, they mostly lack the least of critical 
>> examination which is accredited citation.
>> Orientalism is not particularly accurate about multiple Islamic subjects. 
>> They express their perspective about them. This is why I find it so 
>> strange for a Muslim to study Islam in western universities. I actually 
>> was interested to do so. But, after studying Orientalism and its essence, 
>> I completely changed my mind. I decisively recognize that Orientalism 
>> factors aren’t intended for devotion nor even for scholarly objectives. 
>> They rather are intended for cultural disarray and religious imbalance. 
>> As all we know, religion is not particularly prised in western 
>> traditions. This is why, western orientalists may not be able to fathom 
>> its crucial role in our daily life. In the United States, there are 
>> pliable masses of people ripe for propaganda. This is why it’s quite 
>> difficult to educate people there. September has just began, and this is 
>> the month during Muslims are threatened of being subjected to demeaning 
>> search and seizure in U.S airports for damnable security reasons. I know 
>> someone who during 2011, arrived at Miami’s airport on 9-11 anniversary. 
>> He faced inappropriate attitude, racial discrimination, he had been 
>> sequestered in a dark room, he had been asked intolerable questions 
>> whether he was affiliated with terrorist organisations, why did he go to 
>> Saudi and other ridiculous stuff. His luggage then were opened 
>> disrespectfully and all items were indiscriminately thrown on the floor. 
>> He arrived at almost 11:00 in the morning, yet he left the airport after 
>> midnight when there was no transportation to pick him.
>> Incidentally, he looked quite secular. If someone chose to visit this 
>> country in such time, he should not blame but himself. Orientalism is a 
>> wide subject. I attempted to get through some of its principles.
>> (Edward Said) is the best author on Orientalism. Now, if this is the 
>> month of recalling 9-11, I have one question for American recipients.
>> How could a civil jet fly into the Pentagon’s airspace, crash into it 
>> without being instantaneously detected? I intended to test your 
>> intelligence versus what you are told. Trust me Americans, you have got 
>> much to learn about lots of things. I won’t ever visit your country in 
>> such time of the year, time of ignorance and irrational fear. I won’t 
>> ever visit unless I am treated civilly and properly. I won’t ever 
>> tolerate improper screening or damnable search and seizure.
>> I am convinced that media controls what people believe allover the world, 
>> yet it has the biggest influence on Americans. They have no control out 
>> of it. Media, television, journalism, online publication and video taping 
>> are the tools by which people are dominated in the States. That is the 
>> vital proof for dominating capitalism. People who have got money could do 
>> anything even, run for president despite their plain incompetency. Unlike 
>> many people in my part of the world, I am not deceived about what the 
>> United States is. It may look attractive outwardly but inwardly, it’s 
>> fragile. I am disliked there because unlike Donald Trump, I don’t write 
>> what most Americans like to hear. I am used to typical American ignorance 
>> and discourtesy, even if they attempt to pretend otherwise. My writing 
>> style has to continue because I believe I have independent freedom to 
>> express my opinion in whatever manner. I feel dignified not falling in 
>> the manipulating camp. Well, I suppose I am done with this piece. It’s 
>> close to noon time here in Cairo. I commend you for patiently reading 
>> through, Mostafa
>>
>>
>> --
>> (Seeking knowledge is compulsory from cratle to grave because it is a 
>> shoreless ocean.)
>>
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