[Faith-talk] {Spam?} Re: autism, healing and whatever else...

Thu Sep 8 02:35:27 UTC 2016

Hi Christine, I think you and I have similar thoughts and feelings about healing. But then we both have been involved in the Cathokic Charismatic renewal. I am -forted too when I am prayed for, unless someone insists that I should be healed, and if I'm not it's because I have weak faith. This has happened but not in any ofthe Catholic prayer groups I have been part of. The way I look at healing is that even if I am not healed physically God knows that there are areas in my life that need healing, and works on those. Well enough from me on this subject. It's about time for bed here, 4:15 comes early.    Blessings,    Debby

On Sep 7, 2016 7:20 PM, Christine Olivares via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Hi there,
> I wasn’t sure whether to jump in here or not, as I have quite a different opinion about healing than you might. I grew up in a family that believes in healing,and therefore has been prayed over for healing all of my life. However, I have had positive experiences with it, and it actually brings me comfort even if I am not physically healed. I do believe in the gifts of the Spirit, but not in the way pictured here. They are not necessary by all means, and people make much more of them than what they aught to be.
>
> I prefer people asking me first before praying over me unless I know the person, and I respect people more if they do ask me. I do not see it as a pity party or anything, but that is because of the way I grew up. I am open to healing. Sure, I accept my impairment but am always open to healing. I believe God’s automatic will for us is healing, but it is up to us whether we want it or not. if he puts the desire of healing in our hearts, great. if not, great. We are all on different journeys and we all impact the world the ways we are meant to. For some, healing is in our future. For others, it is not. Jesus healed only when people asked him to. God will give us our desires, no matter what they are.
>
> God bless,
> Christine
> > On Sep 6, 2016, at 9:43 AM, Naima Leigh via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > 
> > David that happen to me too.
> > 
> > Some of the ushers at my church tell me the same thing. When I went up to
> > receive the holy spirit, my pastor kept asking me could I speak in tongues
> > yet? I told him no. So he didn't force me, but the other people in my church
> > tried too. Why are some churches like this? Yeah, my sister-in-law's
> > church's pastor was like that too, he placed his hands on my face and I
> > almost kicked him! I don't like when people touch me without me knowing. I
> > might accidently kick or hit them. "Hard!!!" So then it will not be my
> > fault. I also believe in personal space and respecting that for someone
> > else. If I say don't touch me or please leave my personal space, then I mean
> > move! Does anyone feel like me? Am I wrong for feeling this way?
> > 
> > Naima
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Faith-Talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David
> > Moore via Faith-Talk
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 1:58 AM
> > To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
> > Cc: David Moore
> > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] {Spam?} Re: autism, healing and whatever else...
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > This is funny! I have been in a couple of churches, where I was pulled to
> > the front of the church after service, and hands were laid on my face, one
> > of the guys must have licked his fingers, because they were all wet, and
> > they prayed for me to receive my sight. They told me to open my eyes slowly,
> > because the light might blind me. When I opened my eyes, they asked in
> > excitement what I saw. I said that my sight was the same. They then asked me
> > if I had received the gift of speaking in tongues. I said no, and they told
> > me that was the problem. They said I could not receive my sight until I
> > spoke in tongues. They began to pray over me again, and they kept yelling to
> > let the tongues flow. Everybody was yelling behind me, and the people
> > praying over me asked me if I had sinned and not asked for forgiveness. They
> > finally insisted that my faith was week and that was why I could not receive
> > my sight or speak in tongues. They just told me to work on my faith. This
> > happened in two separate churches, both of them very charismatic. I know
> > now, about what the Bible really says about healing. I am so glad that I am
> > older and wiser LOL! I am in a great church, now, after being in so many
> > that I have lost count LOL! Don't give up, just like finding a mate LOL! The
> > Lord will put you where you belong. just be patient.
> > Take care, everyone!
> > David Moore
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ashley Bramlett via Faith-Talk
> > Sent: Monday, September 5, 2016 11:07 PM
> > To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
> > Cc: Ashley Bramlett
> > Subject: [Faith-talk] {Spam?} Re: autism, healing and whatever else...
> > 
> > Emanuel,
> > Your messages often make little sense. Please do us all a favor and actually
> > spell words correctly and use punctuation. Words jumbled together with no
> > punctuation is impossible to understand with a screen reader. A sighted
> > reader might get it by putting in periods or commas as they read since
> > brains make sense of words, but when you hear something, you hear it all
> > together. Your messages often sound like runons with no sense.
> > Your last phrase ends with no complete thought. It says the following "new
> > Christians  say  that they  can  healning self"
> > Note the misspelled word and fragment.
> > Please write clearly!
> > 
> > Ashley
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Emanuel via Faith-Talk
> > Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 2:57 AM
> > To: 'Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion'
> > Cc: Emanuel
> > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] autism, healing and whatever else...
> > 
> > Today some people  say that they  can healing peple  self  some  new
> > Christians  say  that they  can  healning self
> > 
> > -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
> > Från: Faith-Talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] För Linda Mentink
> > via Faith-Talk
> > Skickat: den 31 augusti 2016 23:55
> > Till: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
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> > Kopia: Linda Mentink <mentink at frontiernet.net>
> > Ämne: Re: [Faith-talk] autism, healing and whatever else...
> > 
> > Sandra,
> > 
> > Very well put.  Also, we need to remember that, as long as we are here on
> > this earth, we will have illnesses and diseases.  I was told that God wants
> > me to see, and, yes, that person wanted to pray for my healing.  I told him
> > that God's will was for me to be blind; otherwise, I'd be able to see.  He
> > gave me a singing voice to use for Him.  That man's response was, "Yes, but
> > just think how much better your ministry would be if you were healed!" What
> > I thought, but didn't say, was, "No, what you're really saying is, just
> > think how much better your ministry would be if you healed me!" God has made
> > us the way we are, each with different gifts and talents, and each with
> > different challenges, whether through disease or something not "normal." Our
> > job as Christians is to rejoice in the Lord, and give Him thanks and the
> > glory for it.  We'll all be whole in heaven.  Until then, we must make the
> > best of it, and be an encouragement to others.
> > 
> > Blessings,
> > 
> > Linda
> > 
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