[Faith-talk] Not necessary

Sat Jul 1 07:17:35 UTC 2017

Hi Christine,

Jenny made them public in her last two posts to the list.  She 
sent them to the list, not to me privately, and that's as public 
as you can get!

Thanks for this, though.

God bless.

Linda

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Christine Olivares via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org
To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and 
religion"<faith-talk at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sat, 1 Jul 2017 02:02:22 -0400
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Not necessary

Hi all,
I am in a group on FB called Blind PenPals.  Iâ€™m sure some here 
have heard of it.  A lot of times, the moderators will say they 
removed someone  from the group because of whatever happened.  I 
donâ€™t think everyone realized all messages were public.  So 
when Linda sent the messages, we all knew about them and no one 
realized it.  Jenny never made them public, as we all got 
Lindaâ€™s reprimands to Jenny.  I know it is so hard sometimes to 
determine whether you send a private or public message.  It can 
get very confusing and what is meant for private ears goes out to 
the whole list.

I honestly think Linda was trying to tell us what happened, 
thinking we didnâ€™t know because some of it was meant to be 
private when it wasnâ€™t I think.  I also know I have trouble 
sounding mean when Iâ€™m not really like that.  I write messages, 
and it is hard for me to use tact because I just say it like it 
is and donâ€™t realize how people get hurt.  Iâ€™m getting better 
with that, but I see the same thing with Linda where she just 
likes to say things a little too honestly.  I really donâ€™t 
think she was being malicious, just trying to help us understand.

I do agree that praying before sending messages, reading them 
back, etc.  is helpful.  I forget to do this too.  God bless,

Christine
 On Jul 1, 2017, at 1:00 AM, Ericka via Faith-Talk 
<faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

 You're right Debbie.  Jenni does have mental health issues but 
he also has coordination issues as well which makes editing on an 
iPhone hard.  Or should I say harder because I hate editing on 
the iPhone as well.  She has no access to updated technology and 
the part department of locational rehab will not help her because 
of medical issues.  So she is stuck with whatever Social Security 
disability income she has to survive.  Hopefully with connecting 
to people in this new welcome and Catholic Church they may have 
some financial assistance through the diocese or someone at 
Catholic charities can help.  She just told me today that her 
Sarah device cannot be updated it's so old.  She doesn't even 
have a braillewriter.

 I personally do not think the word crap is offensive and I do 
not believe it has any connection to Christ at all.  I would 
really like to see some reference to where that connection is.

 Thank you Debbie, on Jenny's behalf.

 Everyone please Pray for her.  She's feeling very lonely and 
hurt.  Many times she's explained her physical problems about 
editing and nobody or very few seem to catch on.  If I was told a 
bunch of that stuff over and over I probably would leave to 
especially a faith based list.

 Sorry Linda I had to say it.  I know you work and your volunteer 
your time to do this as well.  I also know that you don't mean to 
hurt people.  But I agree with Debbie that not only pray before 
you ride but reading it back to yourself before you send it off 
might be a good idea.  I'm not excusing some of the things that 
Jenni said and yes she could take time to edit things.  But if it 
takes you an hour to edit four paragraphs because you cannot 
afford any kind of keyboard, even a $25 Bluetooth keyboard then I 
can understand.  And she's made that very clear how long it takes 
her to edit.  I don't mean to be offensive or critical here, but 
hurtful words like this is what I heard from the church of Christ 
IF someone spoke to me at fellowship so I have a difficult time 
appreciating nondenominational congregations.

 Ericka Short

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