[Faith-talk] To Clear Things Up!

Sat Jul 1 15:46:42 UTC 2017

Hi all,

All lists are different. No NFB list sends out rules but some do have 
guidelines.
Since we are all adults and know list manners such as changing subject 
lines, IMO we do not need guidelines.
Joseph, if you have suggestions, you might want to voice them on a 
conference call.

Lastly, a moderator can not unsubscribe a list member. Only the list owner, 
in this case David Andrews, can do this.
They may be asked to be unsubscribed, but they have to remove themselves 
unless they do something real bad and then they are removed.

I liked Linda's message to clear things up. In her own way, she did support 
that list member.

There is so much we can talk about. So I hope we can start doing that!

To those traveling for the holiday weekend, I hope you have a safe trip.
Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: Joseph Hudson via Faith-Talk
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 3:21 AM
To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
Cc: Joseph Hudson
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Clear Things Up!

First of all she's sent me every communication that you behaves send her 
over these last couple of days, I'm an make that publicly known right now. 
And I've right over that. And I also read over the so-called instructions 
for the current list which you moderate. Yes rules are expected of the 
members of the site but somehow, do Not even placed in the welcome message 
from mailman. So I'm not sure why that is. But any list that I have joined, 
there's always a List of rules that have been sent to me either publicly, or 
leaving privately. Depending on how one has such list set up. And I'm so 
sorry that Jimmy has done nothing but the teaching how to get frustrated. 
And as for removing her, I think you should honor her request and remove her 
as she is asked. I think reading these emails as part of what stressing her 
out at the current time. E Vino she's really not reading them anymore, it's 
just a hassle to have to deal with in her inbox when you have people that 
are trying to upset you for one thing. And as far as making her feel like 
she was stupid, you do kind of did so now you kind of have to clean up your 
own mess in your own bed that you made. So that's just how I feel about it. 
Thanks for reading, and I hope you have a good weekend.
Joseph Hudson

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> On Jul 1, 2017, at 2:08 AM, Linda Mentink via Faith-Talk 
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Ericka, I was not the one mentioning Jenny's errors.  She and I had 
> corresponded off list, making me aware of her financial and coordination 
> issues.  I am falsely accused here.
>
> Ericka, you could have asked politely, but you did not; so I'll tell you: 
> I don't know where our pastor got that information on the words which take 
> the Lord's name in vain.
>
> Yes, Debby, I prayed before responding to Jenny's post titled "Not 
> Necessary," and to the one titled "That's It, I'm Done," but I did not 
> know she had unsubscribed.  Remember, she told me to unsubscribe her 
> myself, which I would not do.  Jenny did not say to what she was referring 
> in either post, nor did she paste the messages to which she was referring. 
> That made it a guessing game, as I inferred.
>
> Joseph, Jenny is falsely blaming the "dear moderator's communications." I 
> was trying to help her to be a better list member, and to follow proper 
> email etiquette, which is expected of all NFBNET listers, and other 
> listers on lists I am on.  I did not demanded, but said please, when 
> mentioning changing subject lines or starting new messages.  And, what I 
> said that was worse than her language is a mystery, because she did not 
> say to what she was referring.
>
> I tried to help her.  1.  When she was looking for a church, I suggested a 
> Christian church I know of in Rockford, her home town.  2.  She asked me 
> off list, and I sent her the list of Braille hymnals available from 
> Helping Hands for the Blind, in case they had one she could use in the 
> Catholic church.  3.  I wrote her off list to re-explain what digest mode 
> is because she didn't understand what I said to her question on the list. 
> 4.  I did not try to convince her, as others did here, or question her 
> about her reasons for preferring the Latin mass over the English.  She 
> explained it many times, and that's her business.  5.  I publicly asked 
> forgiveness of those I had hurt, mentioning names I could think of off the 
> top of my head, including Jenny.  A couple of you responded, which I 
> appreciate; maybe the rest of you didn't take me seriously? And 6.  When 
> she left, I wrote her to ask her to come back.  She wanted to know how to 
> subscribe, so I wrote the email address out for her in words so that it 
> would be clear, which worked well for her.
>
> I wasn't trying to start a war; I was trying to run a civil list.  Some of 
> you have sided with Jenny, and that's your prerogative.  I believe that 
> each one of us, Jenny included, should take responsibility for our own 
> words and actions, but that's not popular today, not even among many who 
> call themselves Christians.
>
> Personally, I didn't learn much from Jenny except how to get rialled up 
> and frustrated.  She did a lot to disturb the peace here.  She is a very 
> needy person.  Much of her hurting is her own doing.  I'm praying for her, 
> and for those of you who are keeping in touch with her and trying to help 
> her.  May God give wisdom and understanding to all.
>
> I love you all in the Lord.
>
> Linda
>
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