[Faith-talk] Hi

Tue Jun 13 18:32:02 UTC 2017

Yes, it makes sense, but, I talk to the one here that has been serviced, unfortunately, they have some believes that I will not abide by. And there's no if's and's or butts. So that's the end of that. But, the only ones that I could feel a part of and valuable is the rock 'n' roll churches, I don't like that, I'm not there to party. 

I just don't know what I should do. Maybe just not go at all.

Jenny

> On Jun 13, 2017, at 11:17 AM, Ericka via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> Yes I like going to the communion rail and receiving the bread and wine separately because I feel like I'm more active in the ritual. It feels like a meal where you can converse with God. One thing I had to learn was hand signals. This doesn't make any sense to most people but some congregations have the option of the chalice or a tray with pre-poured cups. If you want a pre-poured cup, you just take it but if you don't you have to wave your hand like you're asking a car to pass. Then the person with the chalice comes behind. If you took the cup choice, then you just hold it until the acolyte with the empty tray comes by to collect cups. Other churches like ours has a big fishbowl on a stand in the middle of the aisle where you're supposed to dump your cup. We are trying to change that. People are so used to it, but I'm sorry, trying to find a glass fishbowl understand is obnoxious and time wasting. Not to mention I can see myself running over it or somebody with a wheelchair or Walker knocking it over.  That's one of Chad's things he's going to work with counsel on when he gets back from NFB center training.
> 
> I have learned that Catholic and Lutheran churches are not is universal as you think. Some Catholic & Lutheran churches are more traditional than others meaning that they are high church – – like the pope on TV with lots and lots of ritual while others are low worship, like those extremely contemporary worship. Ritual in a Lutheran church has been tough to get used to! I had never seen a Lutheran pastor read from the big Bible held up by an assistant standing in the aisle.  I still keep forgetting to turn towards the aisle when the gospel is read. I do love to hear the Psalms sung resonsively between congregation and choir.  I like the traditional service and I hope it never goes away. Variety of music is one thing, but the structure of the service needs to be reverent. I don't know to explain it, but I think to make something work for you you have to immerse yourself into it. I guess I try to go into each service with the wide eyed wonder of a child open to anything. It's not just showing up for church, it's the attitude of actively participating, like a conversation with The Holy Spirit. Do i make any sense?
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> Ericka Short
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>> On Jun 13, 2017, at 8:49 AM, Jenny Keller via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> The first I don't know few years that I was Lutheran. We only did the communion rail. And, they would pass the chalice as well. And I miss that also. It seems in the catholic, and some Lutheran Church is that I have been to that dude in tinction that it's like going up like an e conveyor belt. But, that's the old traditional side, when you start something, and that kind of format, when you have never done it ever like that. Or heard of it done. That The communion rail is what you get used to.
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>> I don't know why, but I feel it like that's more reverent then just going and getting away for and leaving.
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>> 
>> Jenny
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>>> On Jun 12, 2017, at 6:45 PM, Ericka via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>>> Oh my Dick take sure made me crack up! Intinction is what you were talking about. Debbie can probably give better advice sense if I remember right Catholics do it more often. I figure if I get even the edge in the wine I'm doing good. It goes faster, but I prefer alter rail communion instead. 
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>>> Yipes I just looked out the window and it's almost pitch black. We'll see what nature will bring about the next hour.
>>> 
>>> Ericka Short
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>>> from my iPhone 6+
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>>>> On Jun 12, 2017, at 4:26 PM, Jenny Keller via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>>>> I will definitely give it a try. That sounds good. The pastor of the church said that sorry the secretary at the church said that they would be happy to email me the service information so that I would know what was song and the prayers and all that stuff. So I did think it was nice. Oh, just out of curiosity :-) have you ever done communion by intention? When I've tried to do it I either don't get any wine on the wafer, or I somehow dipped my finger in the wine as I'm trying to dip the reefer. Either one is really funny. And, apparently I'm not the only one who has that problem, and people who see have the same issue. :-) I am not changing would it just put in your just because it made me laugh so anyway. I hope to hear from you soon. I have to find out to how far the church is from here. That's going to be something else to look into. Or whenever ministries/art activities/in any church whether they couldn't be able to get to and from. So, last to think about and pray about. Please pray for me and hope to hear from you soon :-)
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>>>> 
>>>> Jenny
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>>>>> On Jun 12, 2017, at 1:04 PM, Ericka via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>>>>> Lutheran braille workers does a lot of that stuff and they're Missouri Synod. I don't think there are policies out there to prohibit us from doing things in the churches I think it's just people who are acting with closed minds, eyes and hearts. Here Wendy would have asked you if you wanted to be in the choir if she heard you sing. I've been asked and I preferred to just be in the pew. It felt good to be asked. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I understand about your prayers being lifted up in song.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ericka Short
>>>>> from my iPhone 6+
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 12, 2017, at 12:04 PM, Jenny Keller via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yeah, I'm really glad that yours isn't dying. The ones that are Missouri send it here one that are Missouri Senate is about to die so I feel so bad for them and bad for the church to begin with. It's a dying breed that it wants traditional services
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Like I said, it was just a little loud. But, they tried to be accommodating as well. I'm not exactly sure. Sometimes the Lutheran church might be a better alternative for me. But, I haven't talk to the one that has been serviced. Also, the church I'm going to now may actually give me a chance to sing, I know, singing isn't a big deal I guess. But for me it is. It's the way I pray and praise God. 
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>>>>>> For a few churches I was unable to sing in a choir or anything, discrimination and the and I billet he to get there was a big issue. So, sometimes I guess you have to weigh the pros and cons. 
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>>>>>> I was so impressed with what they could try to alter for me and make things accessible. Without even finding out whether I am going to stay permanently or not. They only care about myself and about nothing else. That's getting kind of uncommon here too.
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>>>>>> I'll have to check with the Lutheran Church to find out if they can do the braille info, and at that, if they could help me get to and from praise worship. Again, no matter where I go, praising God is my gift. My voice is my gift. So no matter where I am I want to use that gift from God and his house
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jenny
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>>>>>>> On Jun 11, 2017, at 3:59 PM, Ericka via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I prefer the much more traditional service too. Praise band is a little much, but contemporary Christian music at the right noise level from a sound system is OK on occasion. Are Lutheran Church is not dying and we have a nice combination of traditional, International, and contemporary music. We still meet in an actual church which is awesome of course as well! If you come up to Visit us we can help you out so you don't feel lost. Pastor Sue is awesome about people with disabilities and so are most of the people. They don't try to pour coffee for us anymore! They're slowly learning. You will be welcomed with open arms! And if we know it and advance Pastor Sue will make sure you have a braille copy of everything so you can follow along.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> God bless you all on this very toasty Sunday in Wisconsin and probably nationwide. Chad went back to Minnesota this afternoon so pray for safe ride for him.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ericka Short
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