[Faith-talk] Relationship issues

Fri May 19 02:15:41 UTC 2017

Hi am enjoying reading the posts.
I was brought up as a Christian.  I saw lots of divorce, unwed motherhood, 
and so much more.
I don't believe that God showed me all of this because it’s aits 
considered a sin.  I believe he showed me that we are human.
I don't have children, and have been told recently that it is a very slim 
chance that I will ever have children.  I have been met with some really 
mean comments from people.  A couple of the comments used my blindness as 
a reason why God has not made it possible.
People can be so mean and hurtful.  Although I have seen so much of what 
people may call sinful behavior, I see relationships that make me smile 
and shake my head up and down while saying yes, what a blessing.
In my opinion, Tom and linda anderson are an awesome example of this. 
They are so in love and each other's best friend.  To top it they have 
both an individual and a couple relationship with god.  They also have 
many children.  Each one of us were brought into their lives by God.  I am 
very blessed to be one of those children.
I don't pay attention to those who are so conservative.  In their thinking 
about marriage, and relationships.  I was taught that you don't know who 
you will fall in love with, and that god is an all forgiving god. 
Everyone can change.  My father is a minister.  He has been married a few 
times, and the same goes for my grandfather.  Due to my thinking, many 
people are surprised by my thinking and belief.  My statement to them is 
yes, dad is a minister, but he was a H*all raiser first who was abusive. 
My grandfather was also married many times and believe that the bible gave 
a man right to abuse their wives.  Just because it says something in the 
bible, doesn't make it true.  Meaning that people misinterpret the bible. 
my younger brother is becoming a minister, and he put it into words.  "I 
am a preacher, but I am human and I still tell it like it is, meaning 
telling the truth."
This has been a long post.  So I am going to wrap it up.  By saying a 
couple of things that help me and hope it will help others.  I will 
apologize now.  If I have and will offend anyone.
First, its all one god.  I see churches as how we choose to worship him. 
I am not a person that goes to church every Sunday and through the week. 
I do enjoy church, when I go, and am accepted.
Second, I consider myself, a non-practicing Christian spiritualist.  That 
does know god.
Third, there are a couple of songs that do hit home with me.  One says, "a 
saint is just a sinner who fell down and got up."  Donnie Mcclerken  Next, 
"he saw the best in me when everyone else around could only see the worst 
in me." "Marvin Sapp"   The last songs, are entitled, forgive me "Donna 
summer", still his child, "Mary Mary", alabaster box "Cece winans" and 
take me to the king.
God is  like any parent, he doesn't like what we may do or choose to do. 
Yet, he loves us unconditionally.  We forget that and put him and any 
person delivering his word on a pedistall.  Lastly, my mom always said, 
"god has someone for everyone."
Best,
Melissa R. Green And Pj
-----Original Message----- 
From: Ericka via Faith-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 4:38 PM
To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
Cc: Ericka
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Relationship issues

Sorry for a long reply! Sometimes I think this will bring on more 
questions then it will answer anything. Remember one of the fruits of the 
spirit of patients so let's all work on this now…

Bill, you bring up an interesting topic of which I agree does not get 
discussed too often. I guess perhaps people can share more testimonies of 
how they found their sweethearts. Not everybody is married here and this 
is probably a topic that should also be brought up in training centers 
during seminar time or philosophy class as well as in conventions etc. As 
the faith connection goes, most Churches teachings see family and marriage 
is something very sacred and not just a right of passage. I wonder if 
there are people out there who feel like they are outsiders just because 
they are not able to seek out decent people and fullfill their Faith by 
adding to the cloud of witnesses or however you want to state it. 
Personally I have no love life advice! I was one of those lost souls that 
never dated but had guy friends until almost 30. That didn't go so well 
and after 15 years of marriage we parted respectfully. He had perfect 
vision if he wore his glasses.  I met him through campus ministry. If it 
was not a long-distance relationship we probably never would have dated so 
long or married.  I don't know what the answer is to your great question 
Bill! Aside from your concerns I think it may be a societal problem that 
we are stuck in the middle of too. There's the Blind/sighted debate I will 
leave be.

I'm just very happy to have found the right one at 45 and he just happens 
to be totally blind now. I say now because when I met him when we were 
teenagers he had more visual than I did – 20/100 in the best eye. For me 
as was stated, for a girl it's how you live out your faith, what's in your 
heart, and how you treat others in your family that matters more than 
anything else. How you treat family and others tells us how you're going 
to treat us in the end.

Anyone else have some faithful thoughts? Perhaps some scripture?  I know 
some church cultures kind of help people match each other up – that 
courting concept. Has anybody in a church where that goes on then 
supported in finding a helpmate? Is there any societal or spiritual rules 
anymore for dating? Sometimes I wonder! My mother freaked me out or year 
or two ago by saying she didn't care if I shacked up with someone as long 
as they treated me right. Her take was that the federal laws didn't 
support us being married and she wanted us to be able to pay the bills. 
She said lots of senior citizens doing the same thing. I really don't like 
the concept of shacking up, but God knows the nations rules too. How does 
one  honor faith, family, & the call to be Partners with someone God has 
given you?

Ericka Short
1750 Fordem Ave. #508
Madison. WI. 53704
608-665-3170

from my iPhone 6+

> On May 10, 2017, at 12:12 PM, Bill Outman via Faith-Talk 
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> Good day, folks.
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> I know the list hasn't been very active of late but there is something I
> need to explore with all of you to see where it goes.
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> I am concerned in general about the difficulties we face as blind and
> visually impaired people when it comes to seeking romance, how to go 
> about
> it and how to know if a particular relationship is potentially viable, 
> and
> the ground rules, if any exist, for behavior within such a potential
> relationship.
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> I would appreciate your thoughts, experiences and prayers on this 
> matter.
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> It's something that has caused great frustration, as there seems to be
> sparse attention paid to this issue.
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> By the way, if any of you ladies would like by any chance like to 
> explore
> with me where something could go, please get back to me off list and 
> we'll
> touch base.
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> Bill Outman
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> Daytona Beach, Florida
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> Email: woutman at earthlink.net
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