[Faith-talk] Inaccessible sites

Fri May 19 20:43:24 UTC 2017

Hi,

I don't know if they have a specific specialist for each ward. But I always have stuff that is accessible. What I was saying about voiceover was it would be difficult to read a him that was not in the hymnbook by you're trying to sing in choir

They also have an app that has all the Scriptures and all the sudden this: cereal for everybody. So, there's never a time where I can't read or access what we're doing. Also, our church has made it their mission to make sure that those who cannot get there a little self, yet there. It doesn't matter if it Sunday. Or Tuesday. If there is an activity that they need to get to or want to get to, they are taking it.

Went to church go to the temple, I obviously get to go to. And, though the temple is a quiet place. They don't necessarily mind my running into stuff with my cane. I don't do it though. I do respect. But, I could hear you like you like it's all about respect. And nothing more. And the most important part being included in your father's church

Jenny

> On May 19, 2017, at 3:02 PM, Ericka via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Totally understand where you're coming from Jenny. Listening to things on voiceover while sitting in the pew would just be too difficult. One nice thing for you being a part of the LDS, you can watch services on BYU TV. I actually love that channel. Still, being a part of an actual congregation is really important I know. A friend of mine who was in the LDS church says that each ward has a disability specialist. Is this true? She said hers in Texas hasn't been too helpful but might be somewhere   for you to try. 💒
> 
> Ericka Short from my iPhone 6+
> 
>> On May 19, 2017, at 2:37 PM, Jenny Keller via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> Yes, I would be happy to have bye however, I have no and I don't even have my braille writer pick someone else to do it for me and it has been a long journey to try to even get it mailed
>> So, that sort of where my problem is yeah I can get it on my phone but it still doesn't get me where I needed to go in my hand I can't listen to the voice over on my phone and then try to say understand I meant thing.
>> Line thanks. If you have any ideas let me know. Lions Club is someone but I will ask or later. But, I want to try to wait for the order comes out. At least that would be cheaper than a notetaker
>> 
>> 
>> Jenny
>> 
>>> On May 18, 2017, at 11:15 AM, Debby Phillips via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>>> I ave been singing for years by having somebody dictate songs and I braille them nyself, and I have also gotten songs emailed to me so if you want to do something there is a way. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On May 17, 2017, at 9:25 PM, Jenny Keller via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> Some of you knew that I was Catholic and I mean no disrespect to the Catholic Church at all. But, it wasn't just that. I couldn't get a hymnal because 1000 churches use 1000 different hymnals. Plus, for me to get the songs in braille. I would have to pay like a buck 50 or buck to even get one page. I know it's not just the Catholic Church. Your other churches that do everything on the screen well and that doesn't help 
>>>> 
>>>> In those churches. It makes it very difficult to feel like you're a part of it. No matter what church it is.
>>>> 
>>>> I don't have expensive real stop to have braille typed into something or you know a braille note or anything like that. So, what am I supposed to do? Or any of us? That can't afford it
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I can't even ask the stupid state no I asked the stupid state and they won't even pay out pizza fix my braille writer are you kidding me. Eight old fashion manual braille writer. Not rocket scientist.
>>>> 
>>>> Fortunately, I have found someone who will pay for it. But finding the box will be fine :-) that's the least of my problems though.
>>>> 
>>>> But, you all know what I'm talking about as far as stuff that's not accessible it just makes you feel like you're not part of things. And the fathers house, you should be. So, just my rant to :-) again, no disrespect to any church. Because there are good churches that do have excess of all things. I just don't subscribe to some of their believes.
>>>> 
>>>> Love always
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Jenny
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 17, 2017, at 12:34 PM, Linda Mentink via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Debby,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Contact Amy Mason or Anne Taylor at the NFB.  One of them should be able to help you, or advocate for you concerning this site.
>>>>> 
>>>>> blessings
>>>>> Linda
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: debby phillips via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> To: Linda Mentink via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Date sent: Wed, 17 May 2017 07:56:01 -0700
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Inaccessible sites
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm changing the subject just a bit here.  I just was on a site that the U.S.  Catholic Bishops have.  I subscribe !their email list so that I can read the daily Scripture readings.  Occasionally they send out communications about items that they have for sale, etc.  I found something that interested me and wanted to get more information about it.  I'm using a Google tablet, and since I got it have had so much better luck looking at things, but this was very disappointing.  Their website is so graphic that I cannot navigate it successfully.  When people talk about how expensive it would be to make something accessible, I understand that, but it still makes me want to scream.  If web sites were built in the first place following website protocols that would make them accessible in the beginding they wouldn't have to go through the expense of making them accessible later.  It's just another example of how blind people are not considered when building these sites.  I guess our money isn't good enough.  So frustrating! I don't know how we can get the message across to build websites from the ground up to not only be "cool" but also accessible.  Unfortunately with the atmosphere politically about gesting rid of regulations, I'm afraid the accessibility problem will just be worse.  I pray that those of you who are really in to how to build websites with accessibility will be able to articulate not only the need but how to do it.  Thanks for listening to my rant.    Blessings,    Debby
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