[Faith-talk] Terminology

[David Moore]

Hi Justin,
To be Christian, one must be saved by the blood of Christ, by obeying the salvation message. One is saved by his blood and only by his blood. Not one good work saves you. Our good works are sinful and look like dirty rags to God. After you have been saved by the blood, the scriptures call us to live a holy life and to put on a life like Christ. We will always sin, but the scriptures are clear that we are to no longer enjoy living in sin anymore. After being saved by pure grace, after Jesus hung there on the cross for our sins, how could we keep living in sin. Yes, You must feed on God’s word everyday just like you eat every day. You will starve spiritually if you do not feed on God’s word, just like you will physically starve if you do not eat food.
David Moore
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From: Justin Williams via Faith-Talk
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 4:09 PM
To: 'Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion'
Cc: Justin Williams
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Terminology

Oh, okay, if it's supposed to be Christian, then you've got to have some bible reading and scripture, othe rthan that, it ain't Christian.
 Justin

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Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Terminology

No only application – just talks about serving others without scriptural back up. I went back to the church a couple of times with my grandparents and let's just say I'm proud I kept my mouth shut. Not much music, maybe one scripture reading. Mostly just talking about his opinions on politics and such with nothing to back it up. Apparently this guy wanted to be a priest and went to seminary then realize she couldn't handle celibacy so he left. He tried other seminaries or something and finally found one that he stuck with and got ordained. The church is on the brink of being closed. Seriously they don't even have an American flag. I don't have a problem with gay rights, but to only have the rainbow flag, not even the Christian flag or American flag is Wrong. Thankfully this isn't the norm! My parents church is so very different but still UCC. My parents church is much more solid on scripture and application. Social service is a part of living out our call to serve but definitely there is much more to faith. A Church without a foundation in Word and Sacrament/worship cannot stand!   

Ericka Short from my iPhone 6+

> On May 19, 2017, at 2:23 PM, Justin Williams via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> Did you mean to sa that you know a pastor that focuses on scripture and not application?
> Justin
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> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 3:16 PM
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> You spoke well Sarah. I can only speak for my church, but I know my pastor makes her sermons very applicable to today and how we can apply it to our every day lives. I do know a pastor here in Madison who only focuses on application and not scripture. That is very wrong! Sadly that is the congregation that I was baptized into as a baby. I am happy to say that people are leaving that church quickly. Most are seeing through the smoke and mirrors – definitely a false prophet. It isn't the whole United Church of Christ, just this one Pastor.
> 
> You know Linda, I think if we all sat down and had an ecumenical conversation you would find that we who call ourselves Christians are very much alike and read our Bibles more often than you think. I bet Debbie can also attest that Catholics are holding Bible studies now which I never thought would happen. 
> 
> No matter what, Sundays or Saturdays we all worship the same God. And all Bibles call us to listen for the small voice of God. That call he whispers to us is individual. The word made flesh is still the word to follow. Jesus words. Many times the words that separate Christians are words from the Old Testament. Remember we live in the new life, not the old. Simplistic as it is, I truly believe Jesus would love the catchphrases of the ELCA "always being made new" and "gods work, our hands" 
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> Ericka Short from my iPhone 6+
> 
>> On May 19, 2017, at 1:59 PM, Sarah Blake LaRose via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> Hi, Linda.
>> 
>> In fact, I have read for myself and have asked that the Holy Spirit helped me to understand and to live accordingly. This is part of the difficulty that I am having. What you are saying here is that obviously I have not done this, or else the Holy Spirit would have led me to understand and to live as you do. What the Holy Spirit led me to understand is that those passages were written within a cultural context that is very important to understand and that in order to understand the Scripture I needed to research that context. I hope that our differing perspectives make better sense now.
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>> From: Faith-Talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Linda Mentink via Faith-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 10:55 AM
>> To: Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Linda Mentink <mentink at frontiernet.net>
>> Subject: [Faith-talk] Terminology
>> 
>> Hi Sarah and All,
>> 
>> It seems that I have used incorrect terminology.  I am sorry, and will no longer mention false doctrines or state what I and my church believe.  It's a big part of the faith which I have, but some can't read about it because they're uncomfortable with what I post.  I will refrain, but everyone else here has the freedom to do so.  I am not a Greek or Hebrew scholar as others here are.  
>> Sarah, I wish you would have said I was using those words incorrectly in the first place.  You could have been comfortable here a lot sooner had you done so.  Now that I know, I will cease to share what I believe to be Biblical teachings, and will no longer share how they are still applicable to us today.  If listers are so inclined, and as Christians we all should be, read the Bible for yourselves, and ask that God, through His Holy Spirit, would help you to understand and to live accordingly.
>> 
>> Blessings,
>> 
>> Linda
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