[Faith-talk] For Catholics with special needs, a religiouseducation that includes | USCatholic.org

Sat May 20 21:11:41 UTC 2017

Congratulations Christine! 

Debby i think your point about cultural shifts is very true. Sad, but true. I bet Catholics used to stay all the way through mas. Less people are staying for coffee hour in other congregations. 

Let's stop being defensive here. Nobody is attacking individual faiths. Nobody is making personal attacks. We are all sharing personal experiences, nothing more and we are asking for help because posters WANT to be involved. I pray for all those who don't feel welcome and don't know about this list or our facebook page. It hurts my heart that blind people are giving up on a relationship with God and His children. Has there been a study on how many disabled v. Nondisabled consider themselves religious? How many are active v. Not active by choice? Curious. I know more disabled that are agnostic or atheist than those that practice any faith. 

Let's share resources instead ok? 

Thanks to those who have pisted links, apps & specific suggestions for specific situations. 

If we aren't unified here, how can we expect churches to work with our divion?  Christ and the divison's purpise should unite us, not divide. 

Ericka Short
from my iPhone 6+

> On May 20, 2017, at 8:59 AM, Christine Olivares via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Well, it really helps when you are the music director of a Catholic church. I just got a job recently doing the music for a local Catholic church, and a couple people will bend over backwards for me so I can play. One of the choir members is great about driving me home, and both my parents take me on the weekends. The bus is also available if no one can take me.
> 
> I agree that some denominations are colder than others. People are just lazy to be honest. They don’t really walk the walk I don’t think.
> 
> Christine
>> On May 20, 2017, at 1:45 AM, Justin Williams via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> Well, this church I'm talking about was a Baptist, or nondenomoination
>> church, not sure which, but when I asked if they could send someone  to get
>> me, they said no we can't. 
>> Justin
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>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] For Catholics with special needs, a
>> religiouseducation that includes | USCatholic.org <http://uscatholic.org/>
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I am not surprised. I have been to a few Catholic masses with friends, and
>> people run out of there as soon as they can. New Testament like churches,
>> non-denominational churches, will bend over backward for you, because they
>> really live out the scriptures. Many Catholics are there out of guilt, or
>> because it looks good to their community or family.
>> David Moore
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>> 
>> From: Ericka via Faith-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 10:15 PM
>> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
>> Cc: Ericka
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] For Catholics with special needs, a
>> religiouseducation that includes | USCatholic.org <http://uscatholic.org/>
>> 
>> The Catholic Church as I have attended in the past never tried to do
>> anything for me either. I've also attended many different types of warship
>> and the only one that has encouraged and supported my faith has been the
>> Evangelical Lutheran Church. 
>> 
>> Ericka Short
>> 1750 Fordem Ave. #508
>> Madison. WI. 53704
>> 608-665-3170
>> 
>> from my iPhone 6+
>> 
>>> On May 19, 2017, at 3:33 PM, Jenny Keller via Faith-Talk
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org <mailto:faith-talk at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
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>>> Hi all, having one in the Catholic or year. I think it's interesting
>> people the article special needs special needs special needs it has every
>> thing but lightness and yes a different special needs his mental and
>> physical situation why this is a whole Nother beast. And people tend to
>> forget that. Hence why we have to pay crap load the money for him though.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Also, I don't see one of the richest churches in the universe helping pay
>> for the him situation, or most definitely the transit situation which blind
>> people having difficulty with. I can't afford to pay for paratransit to take
>> me to choir practice, in fact, when I audition and was asked to be in the
>> choir choir director told me that I was not going to be able to ask anyone
>> for help in transportation in the choir in fact his words were don't expect
>> anyone to help you get to and from from the choir. And I'm sorry, that's a
>> little different.
>>> 
>>> It seems is this the special-needs situation there seem to be more
>> activities and abilities. Also on the other hand.
>>> 
>>> Again, I'm not bashing the church. I'm just telling you what I have seen
>> in several cities in my life
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jenny
>>> 
>>>> On May 19, 2017, at 1:26 PM, Ericka via Faith-Talk
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org <mailto:faith-talk at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
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>>>> Felt this was a good article to share. No I'm not Catholic, I very much
>> respect this pope and wish everyone clung to his words.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> http://www.uscatholic.org/articles/201704/catholics-special-needs-religious- <http://www.uscatholic.org/articles/201704/catholics-special-needs-religious->
>> education-includes-30990
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Ericka Short
>>>> 1750 Fordem Ave. #508
>>>> Madison. WI. 53704
>>>> 608-665-3170
>>>> 
>>>> from my iPhone 6+
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