[Faith-talk] Scripture Passage

[Ashley Bramlett]

Hello Linda,

Thanks for answering the question and doing all you do for the organization. 
I think you moderate another list too and that is a lot of responsibility 
for a volunteer.

I agree with much of what you say.
The Bible is giving us instructions on how Christians should live.
You summarized what the Bible says well.
Well stated about the New Testament
"In the New Testament, we read of Christ's birth, His life on
earth, His death (again the shedding of blood), and His
resurrection, written by those who either spent time with Him or,
in the case of Saul turned Paul, who had a spiritual encounter."

Yes, exactly. We read all about Christ's life from his birth to death to his 
resurrection there and perhaps that is why I can understand the New 
Testament more on my own especially the parables and Jesus' sermon called 
Sermon on the Mount.


Regarding Titus II though, it seems we have different interpretations.
I read it BTW online as its easier to look up. To those who do not know, 
Titus II is a letter authored by Paul. I'm not sure Titus's role, but I can 
discern he was a leader in the church. Paul wrote the letter after he was 
released from a Roman prison.
Titus traveled to Crete and knew Paul. Crete was having some moral decline 
then and the family was in need of guidance from the church.
Titus looked to Paul for guidance as he sought to run a new church.
So,  the letter is a short 15 verses.
In the 15 verses, it covers rules of conduct from men to women to slaves.
These verses are about what to do. It instructs women in only 4 of the 15 
verses. It instructs the older women of the church to teach the younger 
women.
I read that men should love their wives; I read that women should be loving 
and caring to children and obey husbands. Women should also be pure and self 
controlled which can mean very different things to different people.
It says to work  at home in verse 4, yet it does not exclude working outside 
the home too.

In these scriptural passages, I certainly do not see an absolute 
prescription for women to be exclusively homemakers.
Conversely, I do not see a prescription for men to exclusively be the only 
provider of the home.

This all goes to interpretation.

I encourage everyone to read this and the other Bible passages to draw your 
own meaning and guidance from it.

Below my name are verses 4-5 of Titus II
I will respond to further email on Monday probably.

Take care,
Ashley
. 4 Then they can urge the younger women to love their husbands and 
children, 5 to be self-controlled and pure, to be busy at home, to be kind, 
and to be subject to their husbands ...


-----Original Message----- 
From: Linda Mentink via Faith-Talk
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 11:26 PM
To: Faith-talk
Cc: Linda Mentink
Subject: [Faith-talk] Scripture Passage

Hi Ashley,

The Scripture passage I was refering to is Titus 2.  Yes, many
things in the Scriptures are historical or allegorical, and much
is prophecy.  But much is instruction on how Christians should
live.  Men and women are the same sinful wretches as they were
when the Bible was written, and what applies to them applies to
us now.  Much of the Old Testament tells us of the laws of Moses,
the old covenant, and how they had to live before Christ came to
earth to give His life for sinful people.  Much of that was
because God needed the shed blood to atone for the sins of the
people.  Many in the Old Testament are types of Christ, thus we
see Christ throughout the whole of Scripture.

In the New Testament, we read of Christ's birth, His life on
earth, His death (again the shedding of blood), and His
resurrection, written by those who either spent time with Him or,
in the case of Saul turned Paul, who had a spiritual encounter.

I once believed that much of the New Testament was just history,
as in such cases as dress, setting aside Sundays as a day to
worship God and to rest, the roles of men and women, etc.  But
then what would we learn, and how would we live, if the Bible
wasn't the Christian's guide? There are different
interpretations, and, in reading the Bible for myself, and being
in a church that believes it means what it says, and says what it
means, I live and believe differently than I used to.

I'm sure I've left some things out, and Sarah will be sure to
call me on it.  But that's basically it in a nutshell.

Blessings,

Linda

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