[Faith-talk] Ridiculous!

Sun May 21 23:57:38 UTC 2017

That is wild you said that, because Jesus’s disciples asked in John chapter 9, if a blind man’s parents had sinned, or did the blind man sin. Jesus told them that neither had sinned. Jesus said that this man was blind so that the work of God could be done through  this blind man. This is right out of John 9, where Jesus healed a blind man. If only people knew the Bible, they would not think that anyone sinned to make a person disabled. Take care, and have a great one.
David Moore
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From: Melissa R Green via Faith-Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 1:41 AM
To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
Cc: Melissa R Green
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Ridiculous!

I also think that many people see disability as a sin, and as a punishment 
for sins of the parents.
That is why many religious organizations, don't have many disabled in the 
ministry.
I don't know where I heard this story, but I heard a blind pastor tell a 
story of a woman.  Who came to him and told him that she couldn't attend 
his church, because he was blind and that blindness was a sin.

Best,
Melissa R. Green And Pj
-----Original Message----- 
From: Ericka via Faith-Talk
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 9:26 AM
To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
Cc: Ericka
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Ridiculous!

Sometimes it's not the doctrine; it's just bylaws have not been rewritten. 
It can be so simple as written where when a minister becomes disabled they 
are considered unfit for full-time ministerial duty. Kind of like parts of 
the ADA where "reasonable accommodations" are easily misinterpreted these 
bylaws are general to cover all sorts of accidents and of course I think 
it probably goes back to when there were much less technology and ways to 
do things as there are now. Plus I think the focus for disability 
organizations on the employment field and such is good but we kind of 
dropped the ball on educating congregations and leaders at the top. 
Perhaps we should be inviting our pastors, bishops etc. to the national 
Federation of the blind convention so they can see for themselves.  Just 
an idea I thought of right now.

The tricky part here with congregations is the day you don't have to abide 
by the ADA kind a like they don't have to pay taxes. They get the special 
privilege because their faith based, but in reality it comes down to money 
and misunderstanding because they are human and things don't happen the 
way they should. I understand we are a country with separation of church 
and state but I really wish that the ADA was a enforced for faith-based 
organizations including congregations as well!

Ericka Short from my iPhone 6+

> On May 18, 2017, at 9:46 PM, Sarah Blake LaRose via Faith-Talk 
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Linda, it is very difficult to read your posts sometimes. Among 
> Christians there is a diversity of Biblical interpretation, including 
> regarding issues of women and men. I am not sure if you realize it, but 
> some Christian groups believe that it is false doctrine to hold the view 
> that people with disabilities can be practicing ministers.
>
> Please try to be more respectful of those of us who hold differing 
> Biblical interpretations.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Faith-Talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> Linda Mentink via Faith-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 10:37 PM
> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion 
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Linda Mentink <mentink at frontiernet.net>
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Ridiculous!
>
> Oops! I thought Rob was misunderstanding what I said about the church of 
> which I
>
> am a member, even though it was a reply to Melissa and Ericka.
> My apologies.  Women can't help such a thing!
>
> Blessings,
>
> Linda ----- Original Message -----
> From: Linda Mentink via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org
> To: Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Thu, 18 May 2017 21:30:54 -0500
> Subject: [Faith-talk] Ridiculous!
>
> Hi Rob,
>
> I never said my church shuns women who can't have children.
> Please read the posts carefully so you don't rant and rave about 
> falsehoods.
>
> Many people nowadays have transportation issues, or can't find a church 
> where the Word of God isn't compromised.  The Bible says that people 
> will have itching ears, and that's part of it.
> Pastors and leaders are preaching false doctrines and watering down the 
> Gospel.  For many, the internet has to be their source for worship with 
> others, which is really unfortunate.  I hope you can find a church where 
> you can be spiritually fed, and where you can get back and forth.  More 
> and more, church leaders don't want disabled attendees or members. 
> That's not Biblical, of course, but that doesn't matter to them.  Many 
> don't use the Bible much or at all anymore.
>
> Some of these things are why the National Federation of the Blind in 
> Communities of Faith division was formed.  Some can't get 
> transportation; some can't get accessiblematerials; some aren't allowed 
> to minister because they're blind.  Sometime having the advocacy of a 
> national organization is helpful!
>
> Blessings,
>
> Linda
>
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