[Faith-talk] the perfect church

Christine Olivares rafael4490 at gmail.com
Fri May 26 15:17:00 UTC 2017


Hey sandra,
Could you give me your E-mail address? For some reason I can’t get it to show up on my computer. Thanks,

Christine
> On May 26, 2017, at 10:42 AM, Sandra Streeter via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> I guess I just keep  coming back to the issue of reaching people where they are, where music is concerned: at one time in my life, hymns wouldn’t have edified me, because I was still attached to the idea of them being sterile and stodgy, because of my upbringing in the oh-so-staid Congregational church. Having since experienced the presence of the Lord in more “rockin’” churches like the Vineyard, Calvary Chapel and the Evangelical Free church, I know He can reach someone like I was, in those places; as someone wisely commented, if you don’t like it and it’s against your theology or taste, there is the exit door, and an entrance in more-palatable venues. I think, too, that there were times our great Apostle Paul himself borrowed from some of what was in “the world” to reach his listeners—e.g., bringing up the “to an unknown god” thing and using that as a Segway into sound doctrine. I learned a very helpful saying during my youth ministry studies years ago: all truth is God’s truth. I think we Christians sometimes draw false dichotomies that don’t really need to be there, between us and “the world”.
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> Christine, please do email me off-list—would love to chat more on inner healing!
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> Ericka, re support groups and church: I usually steer clear of the ones that are not overtly religious, because, in my experience, God can do healing in other ways than 12-Step groups, and my thinking is: what if the Holy Spirit wants to have you do Step 5 BEFORE Step 4, for instance? That said, though, I will be possibly attending a Christ-centered 12-step group mtg tonight—because I was so irresistibly drawn to the topic to be discussed when a friend in a Christ-centered group mentioned it to me this morning: when to ask for vs. when to claim something. Also, I found that Adult 
> Children of Alcoholics (ACOA), unless Christ-centered, never lets you get over your issues and move on—all you hear about is the dysfunction, not really how, in day-to-day life, you can heal from it. I would personally like to start non-12-Step groups in my church for autism and eating disorders—I just don’t think the 12 Steps are workable for everyone, and I do think God can heal through other avenues, and for those of us who don’t fit neatly into the TS groups, there need to be additional options.
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> Okay, done with my soap-boxes, but it’s been fun!
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> 
> Sandra
> 
> Not “Revelation” – tis – that waits
> But our unfurnished eyes –
> (Emily Dickinson)
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