[Faith-talk] Terminology

Sat May 27 03:44:55 UTC 2017

Welcome Nick,

My name is Jenny. I'm fortunate, I'm gonna Latter Day Saints or Mormon. And, our library app has all of the Scriptures old New Testament book of Mormon doctrine covenants and pearl great price and all of them or an audio. We use the King James version of the Bible though as obviously the authority and main book in our church. I love the King James version though. I didn't before to me, for some weird reason. It takes me out of this world. This crazy insane world that we live in. And it brings me back into a classic quiet peaceful world. Where no one talks that way except in that Bible. Now, with the invention of the iPhone :-) if there's a definition of something I don't understand. Like some kind of a house or something that is named something else in the book. I can look up that reference or the definition of the word. That helps a lot.

All of our Sunday school books and videos, and other stuff that relates to the Mormon church is also on that app. Our high school children from freshman to seniors go through what's called seminary. And actually reminds me of something a priest or pastor might go through. At six in the morning they have to be at the church. They have to study well the Old Testament is the freshman the New Testament is a sophomore the book of Mormon is the junior and a doctor in covenant is to give me the senior so, by the time they get through all that they're pretty well versed on a lot of scripture.

I never got to go when I was a kid, I couldn't get up that early, and if I did, I couldn't stay awake during school. So, I didn't go. Also, our app. Any Sunday school or any app at all or any  material at all, if the if the scripture is cited in the lesson, it's a link, so, when you use that link, it brings up that particular verse or verses and then you press back and then you go right back to where you started. So, that's been quite cool.

I've never been able to do that ever in my life. So it's so liberating.

I couldn't go to seminary or Institute which is for the college kids are older adults. So, i'm doing the stuff now. Even though I'm a 43-year-old woman, it's still gets me a lot more in depth of the Scriptures then just Sunday school and reading them. So, I'm doing that, I wanted to do it every day. But, I'm a slacker I admit it :-)

Again, welcome,

Jenny

> On May 26, 2017, at 5:50 PM, Nick Hlifka via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Ashley and all:
> Nice to meet you all - I'm new to the list, a blind Christian in western NY. I use the Braille Note and Bookshare, and there are plenty of Bookshare resources for both reading and studying the Bible. Quite a few versions are on there, including NIV, KJV, NKJV, ESV, and my personal favorite, NRSV. There are lots of commentaries as well - quite a few of them are multi-volume sets, so you have to download the one appropriate for the section you are reading. But John MacArthur has one that is all in one and gives nice succinct yet informative descriptions of context, background, and verse exposition, including a nice intro for every book in the Bible. (Even if you don't agree with all of his theology, it's a good choice.)
> 
> You might also consider some books that help understand certain aspects of the faith/theology more. David Jeremiah, Chuck Swindoll, John MacArthur, etc. all have tons on there that are really good.
> 
> And, as was mentioned, Bible Gateway, Bible Hub, Bible Study Tools, and other web sites (all quite accessible) are good online sources for Bible content, studying, free commentaries, and the Bible text itself.
> 
> I can always help point you to a specific book/material if there's something in particular you're wondering about or want to read up on. I'm a big reader myself and probably will have some suggestions.
> 
> Blessings,
> Nick
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Faith-Talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rob Kaiser via Faith-Talk
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 2:33 PM
> To: 'Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion' <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Rob Kaiser <rcubfank at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Terminology
> 
> Also, if this hasn't already been posted, if you have a Braiille note, the entire King James version of the Bible is in the Braille note i believe. I hope this also helps.
> 
> Rob Kaiser
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Faith-Talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of debby phillips via Faith-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:30 PM
> To: Ashley Bramlett via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: semisweetdebby at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Terminology
> 
> Hi Ashley, there are several ways to study the Bible. Bible Gateway is a very good app if you have a smart phone. But also I believe that as you read you may begin to find more understanding. Here's a way to do this. It's called Lectio Divina, or Divine Reading. Take a passage of Scripture and slowly begin to read it. If something strikes you about that passage of Scripture, read it again. Then begin to think about what you have read. This would be meditating on it. Then begin praying about your thoughts about the Scripture. Perhaps God will bring something to your mind that He wants you to do, or to think about more. This is allowing the Word of God to speak to you, to your heart. This is not really Bible study per se, but it is a way of allowing Scripture to speak to you, to your heart.
> 
> If you have access to Bookshare, there may be some good -taries. Hope this helps.    Debby
> 
>> On May 20, 2017 7:56 PM, Ashley Bramlett via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Sarah,
>> 
>> Which faith are you? I was raised Methodist and now I will just 
>> identify as a Christian as I'm not really too active in a church and 
>> really don't agree with any church doctrines all the way; I mean I 
>> accept the main stuff like the Trinity and Apostles creed, but not 
>> everything the Methodist church says.
>> 
>> I agree with you about the context of the scriptures. It was written 
>> in a different time and place that should be taken into account.
>> I do my best to understand the bible but I do not know the contexts of 
>> all the actions like the groups such as the Pharasees and Sadducees.
>> I don't understand some of the Bible actually particularly the Old 
>> testament. I wish there was some accessible Study Bibles which have 
>> those notes to put the scripture in context and give you definitions.
>> I read the NIV in braille. 
>> I don't take the bible too literally, but, I'm not very liberal 
>> either; I suppose I'm in between. As to the gender thing, I'm 
>> wondering which scriptures tell us a woman should stay home and rear 
>> children and man needs to be the breadwinner. I've read a lot of 
>> scripture, although more of the New testament. I don't seem to  recall 
>> these passages Linda says and believes.
>> 
>> I did see references to women caring for children actually; Paul tells 
>> us that and its in Romans and Acts if I remember correctly. But Paul 
>> did not exclude women working I don't think.
>> 
>> I do think its better for a parent or family member to stay home and 
>> care for the kids. But IMO, it does not have to be the mother. It can 
>> be a stay at home father; even a retired neighbor, or even a grandparent.
>> Kids need someone to watch them, love them, hug them and hold them 
>> especially as a young toddler, teach them values, enforce academics, 
>> and more, and with two parents working, its hard to do such a thing.
>> Heck, many parents do not even see their children since they are put 
>> to bed like at
>> 7:00 or 8:00 before one parent gets home from work. How  sad I think 
>> as this parent has little relationship with their kid.
>> Also, I think day care raising your kids can bring on several issues. 
>> And, I'm not going to start on my rant about day cares as that is not 
>> exactly on topic.
>> 
>> Sarah, I'm sure you read the Bible carefully. I wish you success in 
>> your upcoming ministry.
>> 
>> Ashley
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sarah Blake LaRose via Faith-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 2:59 PM
>> To: 'Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion' 
>> Cc: sarah at sarahblakelarose.com
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Terminology
>> 
>> Hi, Linda. 
>> 
>> In fact, I have read for myself and have asked that the Holy Spirit 
>> helped me to understand and to live accordingly. This is part of the 
>> difficulty that I am having. What you are saying here is that 
>> obviously I have not done this, or else the Holy Spirit would have led 
>> me to understand and to live as you do. What the Holy Spirit led me to 
>> understand is that those passages were written within a cultural 
>> context that is very important to understand and that in order to 
>> understand the Scripture I needed to research that context. I hope that our differing perspectives make better sense now.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Faith-Talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Linda Mentink via Faith-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 10:55 AM
>> To: Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Linda Mentink <mentink at frontiernet.net>
>> Subject: [Faith-talk] Terminology
>> 
>> Hi Sarah and All,
>> 
>> It seems that I have used incorrect terminology.  I am sorry, and will 
>> no longer mention false doctrines or state what I and my church 
>> believe.  It's a big part of the faith which I have, but some can't 
>> read about it because they're uncomfortable with what I post.  I will 
>> refrain, but everyone else here has the freedom to do so.  I am not a 
>> Greek or Hebrew scholar as others here are.
>> Sarah, I wish you would have said I was using those words incorrectly 
>> in the first place.  You could have been comfortable here a lot sooner 
>> had you done so.  Now that I know, I will cease to share what I 
>> believe to be Biblical teachings, and will no longer share how they 
>> are still applicable to us today.  If listers are so inclined, and as 
>> Christians we all should be, read the Bible for yourselves, and ask 
>> that God, through His Holy Spirit, would help you to understand and to live accordingly.
>> 
>> Blessings,
>> 
>> Linda
>> 
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