[Faith-talk] Terminology

Jenny Keller jlperdue3 at gmail.com
Mon May 29 19:03:26 UTC 2017 

Currently, I have to use dictation, that's why my messages have problems.

It would take me an hour to do something I can dictate in a minute.

I can't keep up with what I've said because it takes so long for me to do what I need to do to type out a message. I have coordination issues. So, using the keyboard, or the hand writing feature, is quite slow.

I do apologize if something came out wrong


Jenny

> On May 28, 2017, at 3:08 PM, Ashley Bramlett via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Jenny,
> Please proofread your messages.
> 
> You can look bookshare up online at bookshare.org.
> Then decide for yourself if its resources and expense fit your needs or wants.
> The fee is $75 to begin.
> You pay an annual fee. The limit of books per month is 100 to begin with which IMO is generous.
> I'm not a member yet as I rarely find books I need on it and fiture I can download from NLS most of stuff I want or need.
> 
> It is better in the sense that they have way more books than NLS. They also provide books in a variety of texts formats such as brf which is great
> for braille readers. Some would also argue that bookshare is more flexible than NLS because you can submit a request to them and they usually honor requests. You can even volunteer to scan books for them.
> Also, because its text based, you have flexibility in navigating it by chunks of text.
> You can get spellings of words, something critical for students.
> So in many ways it is better. Bookshare is just one more tool in the toolbox if you want to use it.
> 
> Ashley
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Jenny Keller via Faith-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 2:04 PM
> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
> Cc: Jenny Keller
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Terminology
> 
> What is it mean by volunteering back from them. And, how much is this subscription per month.
> 
> Also, why is it better than the talking books which are free? I mean, a lot of times where I've gotten books that talk over the light CDs and tapes nonstop, they're all abridged. So why wouldn't the books year's book the abridged.
> 
> Like I said, why is it better than an LS please understand, it's not something I know about.
> 
> I'm not a avid reader. But, maybe it's because the readers are just boring. I don't know. So, that would be interesting to know. Thanks
> 
> 
> Jenny
> 
>> On May 26, 2017, at 11:01 PM, Melissa R Green via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> You have to buy a subscription to book share, however, if you are enrolled with Hadley, or any school.  you can get a free subscription.  I also volunteer for them, which which gives me reward credits towards a membership.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best,
>> Melissa R. Green And Pj
>> -----Original Message----- From: Jenny Keller via Faith-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:51 PM
>> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
>> Cc: Jenny Keller
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Terminology
>> 
>> Also, don't you have to pay for the books on book share. If not, give me info please
>> 
>> 
>> Jenny
>> 
>>> On May 26, 2017, at 8:08 PM, andrew edgcumbe via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi how are you nick i am from canada but can book share  be accessed by
>>> those who are blind from canada
>>> 
>>> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 6:50 PM, Nick Hlifka via Faith-Talk <
>>> faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Ashley and all:
>>>> Nice to meet you all - I'm new to the list, a blind Christian in western
>>>> NY. I use the Braille Note and Bookshare, and there are plenty of Bookshare
>>>> resources for both reading and studying the Bible. Quite a few versions are
>>>> on there, including NIV, KJV, NKJV, ESV, and my personal favorite, NRSV.
>>>> There are lots of commentaries as well - quite a few of them are
>>>> multi-volume sets, so you have to download the one appropriate for the
>>>> section you are reading. But John MacArthur has one that is all in one and
>>>> gives nice succinct yet informative descriptions of context, background,
>>>> and verse exposition, including a nice intro for every book in the Bible.
>>>> (Even if you don't agree with all of his theology, it's a good choice.)
>>>> 
>>>> You might also consider some books that help understand certain aspects of
>>>> the faith/theology more. David Jeremiah, Chuck Swindoll, John MacArthur,
>>>> etc. all have tons on there that are really good.
>>>> 
>>>> And, as was mentioned, Bible Gateway, Bible Hub, Bible Study Tools, and
>>>> other web sites (all quite accessible) are good online sources for Bible
>>>> content, studying, free commentaries, and the Bible text itself.
>>>> 
>>>> I can always help point you to a specific book/material if there's
>>>> something in particular you're wondering about or want to read up on. I'm a
>>>> big reader myself and probably will have some suggestions.
>>>> 
>>>> Blessings,
>>>> Nick
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Faith-Talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rob
>>>> Kaiser via Faith-Talk
>>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 2:33 PM
>>>> To: 'Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion' <
>>>> faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Rob Kaiser <rcubfank at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Terminology
>>>> 
>>>> Also, if this hasn't already been posted, if you have a Braiille note, the
>>>> entire King James version of the Bible is in the Braille note i believe. I
>>>> hope this also helps.
>>>> 
>>>> Rob Kaiser
>>>> Email;
>>>> rcubfank at sbcglobal.net
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Faith-Talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>> debby phillips via Faith-Talk
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:30 PM
>>>> To: Ashley Bramlett via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: semisweetdebby at gmail.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Terminology
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Ashley, there are several ways to study the Bible. Bible Gateway is a
>>>> very good app if you have a smart phone. But also I believe that as you
>>>> read you may begin to find more understanding. Here's a way to do this.
>>>> It's called Lectio Divina, or Divine Reading. Take a passage of Scripture
>>>> and slowly begin to read it. If something strikes you about that passage of
>>>> Scripture, read it again. Then begin to think about what you have read.
>>>> This would be meditating on it. Then begin praying about your thoughts
>>>> about the Scripture. Perhaps God will bring something to your mind that He
>>>> wants you to do, or to think about more. This is allowing the Word of God
>>>> to speak to you, to your heart. This is not really Bible study per se, but
>>>> it is a way of allowing Scripture to speak to you, to your heart.
>>>> 
>>>> If you have access to Bookshare, there may be some good -taries. Hope this
>>>> helps.    Debby
>>>> 
>>>> On May 20, 2017 7:56 PM, Ashley Bramlett via Faith-Talk <
>>>> faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sarah,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Which faith are you? I was raised Methodist and now I will just
>>>>> identify as a Christian as I'm not really too active in a church and
>>>>> really don't agree with any church doctrines all the way; I mean I
>>>>> accept the main stuff like the Trinity and Apostles creed, but not
>>>>> everything the Methodist church says.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I agree with you about the context of the scriptures. It was written
>>>>> in a different time and place that should be taken into account.
>>>>> I do my best to understand the bible but I do not know the contexts of
>>>>> all the actions like the groups such as the Pharasees and Sadducees.
>>>>> I don't understand some of the Bible actually particularly the Old
>>>>> testament. I wish there was some accessible Study Bibles which have
>>>>> those notes to put the scripture in context and give you definitions.
>>>>> I read the NIV in braille.
>>>>> I don't take the bible too literally, but, I'm not very liberal
>>>>> either; I suppose I'm in between. As to the gender thing, I'm
>>>>> wondering which scriptures tell us a woman should stay home and rear
>>>>> children and man needs to be the breadwinner. I've read a lot of
>>>>> scripture, although more of the New testament. I don't seem to  recall
>>>>> these passages Linda says and believes.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I did see references to women caring for children actually; Paul tells
>>>>> us that and its in Romans and Acts if I remember correctly. But Paul
>>>>> did not exclude women working I don't think.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I do think its better for a parent or family member to stay home and
>>>>> care for the kids. But IMO, it does not have to be the mother. It can
>>>>> be a stay at home father; even a retired neighbor, or even a grandparent.
>>>>> Kids need someone to watch them, love them, hug them and hold them
>>>>> especially as a young toddler, teach them values, enforce academics,
>>>>> and more, and with two parents working, its hard to do such a thing.
>>>>> Heck, many parents do not even see their children since they are put
>>>>> to bed like at
>>>>> 7:00 or 8:00 before one parent gets home from work. How  sad I think
>>>>> as this parent has little relationship with their kid.
>>>>> Also, I think day care raising your kids can bring on several issues.
>>>>> And, I'm not going to start on my rant about day cares as that is not
>>>>> exactly on topic.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sarah, I'm sure you read the Bible carefully. I wish you success in
>>>>> your upcoming ministry.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ashley
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Sarah Blake LaRose via Faith-Talk
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 2:59 PM
>>>>> To: 'Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion'
>>>>> Cc: sarah at sarahblakelarose.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Terminology
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi, Linda.
>>>>> 
>>>>> In fact, I have read for myself and have asked that the Holy Spirit
>>>>> helped me to understand and to live accordingly. This is part of the
>>>>> difficulty that I am having. What you are saying here is that
>>>>> obviously I have not done this, or else the Holy Spirit would have led
>>>>> me to understand and to live as you do. What the Holy Spirit led me to
>>>>> understand is that those passages were written within a cultural
>>>>> context that is very important to understand and that in order to
>>>>> understand the Scripture I needed to research that context. I hope that
>>>> our differing perspectives make better sense now.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Faith-Talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>> Linda Mentink via Faith-Talk
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 10:55 AM
>>>>> To: Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Linda Mentink <mentink at frontiernet.net>
>>>>> Subject: [Faith-talk] Terminology
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Sarah and All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> It seems that I have used incorrect terminology.  I am sorry, and will
>>>>> no longer mention false doctrines or state what I and my church
>>>>> believe.  It's a big part of the faith which I have, but some can't
>>>>> read about it because they're uncomfortable with what I post.  I will
>>>>> refrain, but everyone else here has the freedom to do so.  I am not a
>>>>> Greek or Hebrew scholar as others here are.
>>>>> Sarah, I wish you would have said I was using those words incorrectly
>>>>> in the first place.  You could have been comfortable here a lot sooner
>>>>> had you done so.  Now that I know, I will cease to share what I
>>>>> believe to be Biblical teachings, and will no longer share how they
>>>>> are still applicable to us today.  If listers are so inclined, and as
>>>>> Christians we all should be, read the Bible for yourselves, and ask
>>>>> that God, through His Holy Spirit, would help you to understand and to
>>>> live accordingly.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Blessings,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Linda
>>>>> 
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