[Faith-talk] Little children being told in school thattheyaretheother sex!

Ericka dotwriter1 at gmail.com
Sat Sep 16 20:18:29 UTC 2017 

Thank you Kaden for the better explained medical info. No matter our way of reading the bible or any religious book we need to know all God has slowly revealed over time, not disregard what is out there because it isn't clearly stated in the bible.

Ericka Short
 from my iPhone 6+

> On Sep 16, 2017, at 4:19 AM, Kaden Colton via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> David,
> 
> According to psychologists and child development professionals, it is a complex issue. The general consensus is that one of the factors may be hormonal balance in the brain while a child is still developing in the womb. Most of the time, hormones are typically oestrogen or testosterone. Generally, the Y chromosome tells the body when to start developing male genetalia. But this does not always happen. So the brain can become masculinised while the body is feminine. Or a male body has developed, but the correct hormones do not get sent to the brain, so the brain becomes more feminine. Children usually know their gender by age three. If there is a mismatch between the brain and the body, sometimes transgender children can express  that they are not a boy or not a girl. Usually, they will say "I am a boy" or "I am a girl." There is a difference between saying "I am" versus "I want to be..."
> 
> David, to answer your question from earlier. No, I do not take the first two chapters of Genesis literally. I do not take any of the holy scriptures.
> 
> If I do end up having a child, I would support them in their choice to live as a boy, a girl, or as a person outside the binary.  I want to have my child know that they are loved and I support them no matter what.i would absolutely be okay with my child learning about what transgender means in the classroom and at home. I would start showing by example what love means.
> 
> Kaden
> 
>> On 16 Sep 2017, at 09:21, David Moore via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Kaden!
>> Thanks for an intelligent explanation.
>> I would like to know how old a child usually is before he or she knows they are transgender.
>> How does this compare to knowing when you are gay, Lesbian, or Bi-sexual.
>> Does a child know any of the four around the same age, or is transgender different.
>> Second, how come I have not heard about transgender people until lately.
>> Are you saying that children have always known that they are a transgender, and not said?
>> Has this always been?
>> I am really curious to get any resources you have.
>> You can right me off list if you want.
>> My personal email is:
>> Jesusloves1966 at gmail.com
>> David Moore
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>> 
>> From: Kaden Colton via Faith-Talk
>> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 4:11 AM
>> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
>> Cc: Kaden Colton
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Little children being told in school thattheyaretheother sex!
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> It seems like there is confusion about what being transgender is. Being transgender is not a choice and it is not a decision. Children know from a young age which gender they are. Coming out as something different than the preset norms of a culture is incredibly difficult. Transgender youth do not always come out because they know that it is likely they they will have to undergo conversion therapy, become homeless or end up dead. I could have. I knew my gender identity since I was a child. I did not have any choice. I just chose to act upon it. I'm sure it's similar for most of you.
>> 
>> What kinds of questions do you all have about LGBT people, particularly transgender people? I can try and give you all some answers and resources to try and clear up the confusion there seems to be about what transgender actually is.
>> 
>> Kaden
>> 
>>> On 16 Sep 2017, at 08:49, David Moore via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ericka!
>>> I see where you are going with that particular situation. I have already thought about that.
>>> But that is not what is going on in schools. If a boy comes and says, I want to be a girl, teachers do not even tell the parents, and the boy gets to go to the girls restroom. That is just messed up. What would you do, if your child came home and said, gmommy, I decided to be a boy today.h My teacher said that it is fine. That is what is going to happen to children if we do not put our foot down and speak up. Everybody wants to keep everything hushed up under the rug. Do you want children who are not old enough to even understand about sex to make that decision, without even talking to their parents first. Do you want a teacher telling your child that they can be a boy if they want to, even though they are a girl, and you have no say in it. Wake up people, and smell the coffee. We are talking about your children, grand children, and great grand children here. This is personal. Put yourselves in your childrenfs shoes, and think about if a teacher did this to your child Without your consent.
>>> David Moore
>>> Society is out to destroy your children. You better wake up, or it will happen to you and your grand children.
>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>> 
>>> From: Linda Mentink via Faith-Talk
>>> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 9:23 PM
>>> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
>>> Cc: Linda Mentink
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Little children being told in school that theyaretheother sex!
>>> 
>>> I don't think we ought to go there on this list, that's what I 
>>> think!
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Ericka via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and 
>>> religion"<faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Fri, 15 Sep 2017 20:17:40 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Little children being told in school 
>>> that they aretheother sex!
>>> 
>>> What would you do if your brand new baby was born with both a 
>>> penis and vagina? This happens.  That's what should the parents 
>>> reaction be if they're Christians? This is a serious question, 
>>> not want to start problems.  All scripture and doctrine aside.  
>>> God chose you to be the parents of this child.  Either you or the 
>>> doctor has to choose which gender instead of God.  I really don't 
>>> know what I would do.
>>> 
>>> Ericka Short
>>> from my iPhone 6+
>>> 
>>> On Sep 15, 2017, at 7:51 PM, Linda Mentink via Faith-Talk 
>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Where do I start?
>>> 
>>> Teachers are supposed to be teaching reading, writing, 
>>> arithmetic, science, geography, music, phy.  ed., cooking, etc., 
>>> and most of that not in Kindergarten.  They shouldn't be pushing 
>>> their sick agenda on children entrusted to them by unsuspecting 
>>> parents.  This is all part of the LGBTQ ...  agenda.  We have 
>>> kicked God out of our schools, and this is part of the result.
>>> 
>>> Parents shouldn't leave it up to their children to decide 
>>> whether they want to be a girl or a boy, and forcing it on their 
>>> friends in the classroom is just plain sick! Classmates shouldn't 
>>> be afraid that they are going to be expected to follow that 
>>> student's example.
>>> 
>>> Punishing students for calling one what he really is, as she has 
>>> known him, is also just plain sick.  Sin is rampant, and Satan is 
>>> having a heyday! God is taking His hand off this nation.  We need 
>>> to pray and speak up when we can!
>>> 
>>> Christian parents need to either take a stand with the schools 
>>> or pull their children out!
>>> 
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