[Faith-Talk] Christ in truth

Ericka dotwriter1 at gmail.com
Tue Dec 3 01:09:49 UTC 2019


Jesus came before Mohomed. 

You have been asked to stop prostyletizing
 before. Blest. Ramadon to you.

Ericka Nelson

> On Nov 30, 2019, at 4:52 AM, Mustafa Almahdy via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> On each and every Sunday, Christians around the world gather at
> Churches to glorify Christ. They consider him deified. Nonetheless, he
> never expressed that about himself explicitly. It is immensely
> perilous to lay Christians to dig into the Bible themselves because
> it's most unlikely that they'll find Jesus enjoining people to worship
> him. There are two main set of statements regarding Jesus's
> phraseology in the scripture. Explicit and implicit statements. What
> is an explicit statement? It is what has been stated plainly, readily
> observable, leaving nothing to implication. Such as Jesus saying in
> John 3:17:; "Now this is eternal life, that they know you, the only
> true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent." So here, Jesus
> clearly acknowledges divinity and monotheism to the One and true God
> and declares himself being sent by Him to convey His message to
> people. Then, we have implicit statements, whereas some of them are
> allegedly attributed to Jesus or possibly misconstrued by some
> apologists for essentially systematic theology motives. Such as Jesus
> saying in John 10:30; "I and the Father are one". Christian apologists
> assert he has meant they are one in entity while the text
> presumptively entails they are one in identity. Another instance,
> where Jesus explicitly distinguishes between himself and God. Jesus
> says in John 8:40; "As it is, you are looking for a way to kill me, a
> man who has told you the truth that I heard from God." According to
> the Bible you wholly hold up to, this was Jesus speaking to the Jews.
> This particular passage has three crucial messages to catch. First
> off, Jesus declared that Jews attempted to kill him. Thence, I
> actually don't fathom the awkward relationship today between those who
> allegedly are the followers of Jesus and those who, according to
> scripture, were sternly hostile to him. Second, Jesus unambiguously
> stated that he is a man who heard the word of God and destined to pass
> it through to people. He didn't say I am God in man incarnate or any
> of that. So, the personification of the divine in the character of
> Jesus is a later developed doctrine called the Hypostatic union. It is
> interesting to note, that historically, this particular doctrine has
> only been prefaced at the Council of Chalcedon in the year (451).
> Consequently, it is demonstratively fallacious to embrace such tenet
> as it has been decisively probed to be absolutely mendacious.
> Moreover, according to your own version of the Bible, in English, the
> description of Jesus's mission precisely befits the definition of
> prophethood in Islam. Third, Jesus says he heard the truth from God.
> So, what is it? It is the message that he plainly stated in John 3:17
> as quoted above. Furthermore, Jesus spoke the truth as he delivered
> the message to a tremendous croud as he uttered a magnanimous speech
> known biblically as sermon on the mount. In this major discourse, he
> taught the public what is biblically known as the Lord's prayer. If
> you Read this, while parallelly citing the opening of the Koran
> translated into English, you will discover a gravely unexpected
> similarity. I won't be taken aback, because it is yet the same message
> of Monotheism. Jesus implored to God. If he was himself God, it would
> have been quite irrational of Jesus praying to himself. I urge
> pastoral staff and their loyally fellow congregants, to unfeignedly
> seek the truth regarding Jesus's solely spoken word in the Gospel.
> Trust me, after I read the Bible many times, my faith and conviction
> of Islam being the true pathway to the celestial realm has
> strengthened leastwise two fold. I do hope that you find this message
> to you encouraging not frustrating. It is not my nature to deride or
> marginalise someone's belief. Please, read the whole gospel and
> earnestly seek to find what Jesus says in it. I do not recognise the
> words spoken by Paul or others about Jesus. I only care about what was
> directly spoken by Jesus. The essence of this message is quite plain.
> Find the truth and stick to it. I wholeheartedly say to you, If I knew
> that Christianity is indeed the truth and only path to salvation, I
> would have unhesitatingly embraced it. This is not a joke nor it bears
> to be.
> 
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