[Faith-Talk] List Messages from Mustafa

Fri Dec 6 21:34:21 UTC 2019

Hi mistoffa i never usually get in on stuff like this but frankly i am
tired of you being such a downer towards the states.  there are both
good and bad people in Canada and the united states.  you have no
right to be slamming people for their beliefs. i respect other
opeople's beliefs but i feel like you are against what christians
believe.  instead of talking bad about people we are to pray for them
not attack people like you are doing.  the thing is this i get so fed
up of christianity being attacked. I hacve not attacked islam in
anyway but you are attacking those who believe in jesus. this list is
not about  attacking and debates this is about blindness and issues
blind have as christians.  let me ask you this why are you giving us
such a hard time about these things.  the way you attack us it is like
 every single one of us are bad and it is like we are your enemies.
Why do you feel you have to say terrible things about the states and
attack us all?

On 12/6/19, Ericka via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Mustafa I am very much interested in hearing the answers to JOY’s questions.
> They are very good ones and this way we know more about you. Not all of us
> applaud trumps actions. Thank you JOY for writing what you did.
>
> Ericka Nelson
>
>> On Dec 6, 2019, at 1:47 PM, BRUCE&JOY BRESLAUER via Faith-Talk
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> It seems to me that you are using a broad brush to put us all in a
>> certain
>> disliked category, be we Americans or Christians or whatever class of
>> infidels
>> you think we are.  This list is not for discussing Trump and whatever you
>> or we
>> may think of him.  We blind people in the United States do not all live on
>>
>> government assistance.  Not all Americans are racists.  I also think that
>> it is
>> disingenuous in the extreme to say that you don't instigate hatred with
>> any of
>> your threads, or that you haven't been disrespectful or hateful to anyone
>> on
>> this list, or to say that we have been disrespectful to you.  No one here
>> has
>> called you a terrorist or anything of the sort.  It would be easier to
>> dialogue
>> with you if you would at least own your part of the discourse.  If you
>> were to
>> be removed from this list, it would not be because of your theological
>> opinion.
>> Freedom of speech is not freedom to be disrespectful and to spread vicious
>>
>> lies.
>>
>> No matter where we are from or what we believe, I think every problem we
>> have
>> as individuals or a society is due to one thing: a heart problem.  Do we
>> love
>> and serve God first and foremost above all else, and do we share the love
>> of
>> God with our neighbors, friends, and enemies to the best of our ability.
>> That
>> is not always easy to do, and I don't think we all do it well.  Some of us
>>
>> don't do it at all.  But you will know us by our fruits.  A good tree
>> doesn't
>> bear bad fruit, and a bad tree doesn't bear good fruit.  I do not decide
>> what
>> is good or bad, by the way.
>>
>> I once heard a sermon that I thought was particularly helpful.  I think it
>> was
>> called what's in your cup.  Say your heart is a cup of coffee or whatever.
>>
>> When you are upset or angry or jostled in some way, whatever is in your
>> cup
>> spills out and sloshes all over you and others.  Is it loving, patient,
>> kind,
>> etc., or is it caustic, bitter, angry, or hateful?  I think that is a good
>>
>> thing to ponder as individuals.  If there is something undesirable in our
>> cup,
>> we know what to do about it.
>>
>> I have a test I try to apply before I speak.  I am not always successful,
>> but
>> I try to keep this in mind.  Is what I say true?  Is it helpful?  Is it
>> edifying to God?  If it doesn't pass those three criteria, then I should
>> keep
>> my mouth shut.  If I think my friend is ugly, it may be true, but it is
>> likely
>> not helpful or edifying.
>>
>> It might also be helpful if you do not cross post messages to this list
>> meant
>> for others who are not on this list.
>>
>> I don't think anyone here is asking you to abandon your religion.  I think
>> some
>> of your ideas about the United States or the people who live here are
>> erroneous
>> at best and misinformed at worst.  But actually, this discussion is off
>> topic
>> for this list also.  I think we would like to hear why and how you chose
>> Islam,
>> and how and where you get your information as a blind person.  How does
>> being a
>> Moslem inform your life's purpose?  Do you read the Quran in Braille, or
>> access
>> it in some other way?  How do you travel to a mosque, and how far is it
>> from
>> where you live?  Do the people with whom you worship respect you as a
>> blind
>> Moslem?  If you have a problem with anyone in your faith community
>> regarding
>> your blindness, how do you solve it?  If your blindness is not an issue,
>> that's
>> great, and we would love to hear about that, too.  Can you discuss such
>> things
>> without being defensive and hateful?  We shall see.
>>
>>  You must know that not all Christians believe the same things exactly,
>> and I
>> am sure the same thing is true of other religions.  There are some
>> denominations of Christianity or any other religion you can name that are
>> more
>> liberal or more conservative than others.  People interpret things
>> differently.
>> We do not know all of the truth from our earthly perspective, and we never
>>
>> will.  When we meet God, we will see and know more clearly.  Until then,
>> we
>> must labor under whatever misinterpretations or misconceptions or lack of
>> understanding we all have as finite flawed human beings on this earth.
>>
>> May God bless you on your journey.  Joy
>>
>>
>>
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