[Faith-Talk] List Messages from Mustafa, here is my follow up It's a bit lengthy but crucial, so, please keep reading to the end, thank you

Sun Dec 8 14:44:03 UTC 2019

Ramadan started on Monday, the sixth of May and ended on Tuesday, the
fourth of June. Now, I’d like to comment on few things here. First
off, I am not disingenuous because of my stern convictions about the
States and what it represents. I have strong opinions against the
States because of it’s vicious history and presently perverse affairs.
Ah by the way, Egyptians are quite racist. They’re racist at Africans,
disabilities etc. Nonetheless, Egypt is not considered a leading
entity of the free world. It’s just a developing nation, with lots of
complicated crises, located in northeastern Africa. I don’t care about
Egypt’s past history. Currently, it’s ruled by a de facto coup and
military based shogunate, backed by haters of Islam in the States and
farther.  I just care about its current miserable state. Second, I was
born Muslim but, my parents attempted to enroll me at  mainstream
schooling and I was constantly declined entry. My mother wasn’t
convinced of the blind school. Subsequently, they took me to a place
called Al-Azhar, which is a notable religious Sunni education. It
teaches the Koran during elementary stage and gradually, introduces
its pupils to eminently advanced theological syllabus until they
become recognised scholars. Therein, I memorised the Koran in its
original language, learned Arabic, Islamic jural, Koranic commentary,
Hadith discipline, and many other curricula. I graduated from Azhar
college 2008 with a Bachelor  of Islamic and Arabic studies. Back to
Azhar elementary school, after I got enrolled there, my parents
brought me a private Braille tutor at home to teach me Arabic
rudiments. I then learned how to read in Braille Koran. So, I used to
take this to school and fully participate in the Koran class with my
sighted counterparts. Second, I find no problem dealing with my faith
community. We have many Masjids here and I could easily walk to any of
them. I don’t use the cane and find it useless, just a show. That’s my
personal opinion though. With typically offered sighted aid, I can
reach to any destination as of Masjids and beyond. Back to my
educational progress, before computer was introduced to my life in
2005, I used to educate myself through listening to religious audio
cassette tape. I benefited a lot listening to these. Each Summer, my
father used to bring me a certain collection such as the prophet’s
biography, stories of the prophets and other Islamic related subjects.
I therefore am quite involved in eminently prestigious Islamic
theological scholarship. I am quite pleased with my current disposal
as of faith and its pertained concepts. Because I studied about Islam
in depth, my persuasion of it is essentially based on stiff
recognition and  thorough cognisance. I thence knew, that anyone
abandons this particular system of belief has done so for temporal
motives. With this point in particular, we could conveniently proceed
into the subsequent one. I have recently exposed a notorious Iranian
based named Ali Sina. He mainly runs two websites that are quite
prejudiced about Islam. They clearly contain detestable and vicious
material about Islam. They are, Ali Sina dot org and, faith freedom
dot org. I urge you folks to visit any of them and see what they look
like. Anyhow, I exposed him on occasions and ever since, have been
insistently challenging him to enter with me, in one to one debate
about the things that he intently lies about regarding Islam. Well
naturally, he kept evading and, arrogantly demanded me as a
prerequisite to accept my debating proposal, to read a despicable
soliloquy that he has composed about prophet Muhammad, peace and
blessings be upon him. I stiffly refused this distasteful requirement
and told him, that I won’t ever disesteem my prophet by reading such
disgraceful stuff. He insisted and, I interpreted this position as a
way to avoid confronting me, not more or less. Someone might say, why
am I writing this here? Well, honestly, we couldn’t just bury our
heads in the sand as it comes to malevolent and misanthropic
Islamophobes  and what they do in the name of mass western ascendancy.
Each and every hater of Islam immigrates to the States and he speaks
abhorrently out there in Christian colleges and other public
platforms. This is a guaranteed way for many to gain fame, greed and
warm welcome. Even though most of you are not aware of such critical
concerns, this doesn’t mean you’re not guilty. When I wanted to
understand more about Christianity, I went directly to the source. I
just read the Bible and concluded, that Christianity doesn’t sound
like the true religion for me. Some people, however, when they want to
learn about Islam, they knowingly listen to the wrong voices, because
they’re mentally slanted about it and somewhat destine to endorse this
prepossessed notion with just anything, even stereotyped sentiments. I
now hope you discern, that I am not merely blind individual. I am
someone with notable credentials of Islamic theology. I therefore urge
all of you to take advantage of my presence here. As to Christianity,
I will summon my conviction of it in the following statement. Although
we may fundamentally dissent on major tenets, we still have much in
common. The Bible contains many tales and discourses that are utterly
concordant with the essence of Islam. I’d like to be asked about
useful theological topics. I currently work at a school teaching
religion and Arabic. I also teach online Arabic classes to nonnative
speakers. My online students reside in the States, Canada, Spain and
Australia. As to my English, I learned this language at the British
Council. It’s a worldwide educational centre, funded by the British
government, aimed to promote English language and culture around the
world. I of course don’t consider my English to be perfect.
Nonetheless, it’s relatively satisfactory. As to Christians here in
Egypt and my relationship with them, you might be surprised to learn,
that I live at a building owned by a Coptic family. I am quite well
living with them and vice versa. And, in a main square nearby the
street where I live, there is a massive Catholic Church. It’s called
the Red Church because it’s outward walls are painted with red. That’s
what trusted sighted mortals have told me. There are at least four
main Churches here in the surrounding region, including, an
evangelical one. I live in Heliopolis. At its inception, it was a
suburb outside Cairo, Egypt. It then  has merged with Cairo as a major
district of the city. It’s somewhat viewed as an affluent part of the
city. Recently, it became one of Cairo’s busiest, or you may even say,
fussiest fields, unfortunately.  I enjoy playing one of the most
popular board games known as Monopoly. If I am not working, I spend
most of my time with my wife. I actually would like to dedicate some
of my time to this list, teaching people about the things that they
might need to know or, perhaps are interested to know about Islam. You
may thus start a discussion panel to decide what best suits you here
on that regard. I am ready to send one article per week, four in one
month and that’s quite enough. Note, these articles are not intended
for proselytising. They’re just for awareness purposes. If someone has
the motive to embrace Islam, they may then write me off the list. I
hope I clarified to you who am I and what am I doing. I hope this has
urged many of you to ask any question you might have about Islam and
its related teachings. I apologise for the lenth of this thread but I
meant to be thorough. Thank you for reading and, I keenly look forward
to hearing from you. Mustafa

On 12/8/19, Ericka via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Thanks for the correction, Kaden.
>
> Can you tell us more about holy days for Muslims? I would think the times
> stopping bto pray makes every day a holy day with the right attitude.
> Honestly I wish more of us Christians were that disciplined. As the bible
> says we arecalled to”pray without ceasing.”
>
> Look forward to learning about your holy celebrations.
>
> Ericka Nelson
>
>> On Dec 6, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Kaden Colton via Faith-Talk
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Good afternoon,
>>
>> Ericka, I would like to correct you about when Ramadan was this year.
>> Ramadan was mid-May to mid-June this year. Thank you for asking to bit
>> generalising about all Muslims and how words make an impact
>>
>> I would like to echo that this list is not strictly Christian. I view this
>> list as a place where we can receive help and talk about how our blindness
>> impacts our faith..
>>
>> Salam,
>>
>> Kaden
>>
>>> On 6 Dec 2019, at 15:35, Ericka via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Mustafa, it is Ramadan now correct? It is a time of reflection while you
>>> fast correct? If so perhaps maybe you could look back at some of the
>>> things you wrote and see how you could have written things in a more
>>> tactful manner. I choose to believe that you really do not hate any of us
>>> and that you want the best for this world same as we. Personally I know
>>> many people who are Muslim and or find citizens here. The best Neighbor I
>>> ever had was. Was  a Muslim family well my husband and I lived in an
>>> apartment building. We are very sad to see the move permanently to Texas.
>>> I don’t recall what country he was from, but his wife was American born.
>>> I tell you this not only to be an example that Christians and Muslims can
>>> get along, but to show you that you probably do not understand truly what
>>> is going on in America. Personally I think Trump is nuts and can’t wait
>>> to get rid of him somehow I am embarrassed. But that doesn’t get put into
>>> the international media. I understand not wanting to move to another
>>> country. I’ve only been to Canada and I regret that I have not been to
>>> other countries but I still I’m glad I live in America. I am sure there
>>> are wonderful things about Egypt that I’m not aware of but I I am also
>>> aware that there are Christians and Egypt to. Not just  optic Christians
>>> but others.
>>>
>>> I am suggesting highly that you spend this time of Ramadan thinking about
>>> how you can gather better information than what’s on the Internet about
>>> other countries and have real conversations with people in the   United
>>> States. Don’t come to the conversation for any other reason then to
>>> listen and learn. I’m well aware this is difficult for you to hear as you
>>> have been Muslim all your life and your spiritual leader tells you many
>>> things. My pastor, my spiritual leader has never told me that every
>>> Muslim is a jihadist and going to kill me. my spiritual leader has never
>>> told me that my country is the only safe place to live. My spiritual
>>> leader has never told me that it’s OK to hurt someone else in anyway
>>> shape or form just because they don’t agree with me. I’m not suggesting
>>> that yours does, but I am just saying that I do not come to these posts
>>> with preconceive notion‘s and blinders on. I come to learn and to see
>>> what commonalities we have and how I can be of assistance at times.
>>>
>>> May you have a blessed Ramadan and for those that are Christians a
>>> blessed Advent and Christmas. Incidentally, we do not just have
>>> Christians on this list. Or we didn’t. This is not exclusively a
>>> Christian forum. We’ve had Muslims riding here before and we’ve had druid
>>> or naturalist Faith. I know there are Mormons out here that you read
>>> this.
>>>
>>> If you continue to write to this list Mustafa, please tell us what it is
>>> like to be a Muslim and blind in your country. Are you allowed to walk
>>> into the mosque on escorted? Are you allowed to lead prayers? Do you read
>>> the Koran in Braille? Are all your study materials and Braille as well?
>>> If you are a part of a charitable Muslim run are you welcomed as a blind
>>> person or are they limiting your responsibilities? Are you employed and
>>> what do you do? I ask these because I do not want to stereotype you as
>>> you have been stereotyping The United States and Americans especially
>>> blind Americans. My husband works full-time and does not get any kind of
>>> benefits. I have some other medical issues and I do get some help but I
>>> am looking for work myself and have worked most of my adult life. If you
>>> ask us questions like I have asked you, you’ll get to know us better. Us
>>> meaning not just Christians but The blind in other countries.
>>>
>>> Ericka Nelson
>>>
>>>>> On Dec 6, 2019, at 3:35 PM, andrew edgcumbe via Faith-Talk
>>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi mistoffa i never usually get in on stuff like this but frankly i am
>>>> tired of you being such a downer towards the states.  there are both
>>>> good and bad people in Canada and the united states.  you have no
>>>> right to be slamming people for their beliefs. i respect other
>>>> opeople's beliefs but i feel like you are against what christians
>>>> believe.  instead of talking bad about people we are to pray for them
>>>> not attack people like you are doing.  the thing is this i get so fed
>>>> up of christianity being attacked. I hacve not attacked islam in
>>>> anyway but you are attacking those who believe in jesus. this list is
>>>> not about  attacking and debates this is about blindness and issues
>>>> blind have as christians.  let me ask you this why are you giving us
>>>> such a hard time about these things.  the way you attack us it is like
>>>> every single one of us are bad and it is like we are your enemies.
>>>> Why do you feel you have to say terrible things about the states and
>>>> attack us all?
>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/6/19, Ericka via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> Mustafa I am very much interested in hearing the answers to JOY’s
>>>>> questions.
>>>>> They are very good ones and this way we know more about you. Not all of
>>>>> us
>>>>> applaud trumps actions. Thank you JOY for writing what you did.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ericka Nelson
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 6, 2019, at 1:47 PM, BRUCE&JOY BRESLAUER via Faith-Talk
>>>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems to me that you are using a broad brush to put us all in a
>>>>>> certain
>>>>>> disliked category, be we Americans or Christians or whatever class of
>>>>>> infidels
>>>>>> you think we are.  This list is not for discussing Trump and whatever
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> or we
>>>>>> may think of him.  We blind people in the United States do not all
>>>>>> live on
>>>>>>
>>>>>> government assistance.  Not all Americans are racists.  I also think
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> it is
>>>>>> disingenuous in the extreme to say that you don't instigate hatred
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> any of
>>>>>> your threads, or that you haven't been disrespectful or hateful to
>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> this list, or to say that we have been disrespectful to you.  No one
>>>>>> here
>>>>>> has
>>>>>> called you a terrorist or anything of the sort.  It would be easier to
>>>>>> dialogue
>>>>>> with you if you would at least own your part of the discourse.  If you
>>>>>> were to
>>>>>> be removed from this list, it would not be because of your theological
>>>>>> opinion.
>>>>>> Freedom of speech is not freedom to be disrespectful and to spread
>>>>>> vicious
>>>>>>
>>>>>> lies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No matter where we are from or what we believe, I think every problem
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> as individuals or a society is due to one thing: a heart problem.  Do
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> love
>>>>>> and serve God first and foremost above all else, and do we share the
>>>>>> love
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> God with our neighbors, friends, and enemies to the best of our
>>>>>> ability.
>>>>>> That
>>>>>> is not always easy to do, and I don't think we all do it well.  Some
>>>>>> of us
>>>>>>
>>>>>> don't do it at all.  But you will know us by our fruits.  A good tree
>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>> bear bad fruit, and a bad tree doesn't bear good fruit.  I do not
>>>>>> decide
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> is good or bad, by the way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I once heard a sermon that I thought was particularly helpful.  I
>>>>>> think it
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> called what's in your cup.  Say your heart is a cup of coffee or
>>>>>> whatever.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When you are upset or angry or jostled in some way, whatever is in
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> cup
>>>>>> spills out and sloshes all over you and others.  Is it loving,
>>>>>> patient,
>>>>>> kind,
>>>>>> etc., or is it caustic, bitter, angry, or hateful?  I think that is a
>>>>>> good
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thing to ponder as individuals.  If there is something undesirable in
>>>>>> our
>>>>>> cup,
>>>>>> we know what to do about it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a test I try to apply before I speak.  I am not always
>>>>>> successful,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> I try to keep this in mind.  Is what I say true?  Is it helpful?  Is
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> edifying to God?  If it doesn't pass those three criteria, then I
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> keep
>>>>>> my mouth shut.  If I think my friend is ugly, it may be true, but it
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> likely
>>>>>> not helpful or edifying.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It might also be helpful if you do not cross post messages to this
>>>>>> list
>>>>>> meant
>>>>>> for others who are not on this list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think anyone here is asking you to abandon your religion.  I
>>>>>> think
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> of your ideas about the United States or the people who live here are
>>>>>> erroneous
>>>>>> at best and misinformed at worst.  But actually, this discussion is
>>>>>> off
>>>>>> topic
>>>>>> for this list also.  I think we would like to hear why and how you
>>>>>> chose
>>>>>> Islam,
>>>>>> and how and where you get your information as a blind person.  How
>>>>>> does
>>>>>> being a
>>>>>> Moslem inform your life's purpose?  Do you read the Quran in Braille,
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> access
>>>>>> it in some other way?  How do you travel to a mosque, and how far is
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> where you live?  Do the people with whom you worship respect you as a
>>>>>> blind
>>>>>> Moslem?  If you have a problem with anyone in your faith community
>>>>>> regarding
>>>>>> your blindness, how do you solve it?  If your blindness is not an
>>>>>> issue,
>>>>>> that's
>>>>>> great, and we would love to hear about that, too.  Can you discuss
>>>>>> such
>>>>>> things
>>>>>> without being defensive and hateful?  We shall see.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You must know that not all Christians believe the same things exactly,
>>>>>> and I
>>>>>> am sure the same thing is true of other religions.  There are some
>>>>>> denominations of Christianity or any other religion you can name that
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> liberal or more conservative than others.  People interpret things
>>>>>> differently.
>>>>>> We do not know all of the truth from our earthly perspective, and we
>>>>>> never
>>>>>>
>>>>>> will.  When we meet God, we will see and know more clearly.  Until
>>>>>> then,
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> must labor under whatever misinterpretations or misconceptions or lack
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> understanding we all have as finite flawed human beings on this earth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> May God bless you on your journey.  Joy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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