[Faith-Talk] serving and connection and closing thoughts about involvement

Mon Aug 12 05:07:48 UTC 2024

I think the other part of it is because even though i might be in the world
even though i do get out some what  i have never had good people around me
to sence the tone now i am not saying my family needs to fight for me  or
people need to fight for me to do stuff that isn't what i am saying but  i
can get all the counciling i want and when the root problem is bordom  then
that has to be solved and stuff like that.

I don't know  for me certain things light me up and interest me more then
others  and for me i am not a morning person and things and when I am not a
morning person i truly have nothing to wake up to do. right now i can't
send an email to you or chris as compose feature is not working in my gmail
and i don't know why it isn't.

On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 1:01 AM Judy Jones via Faith-Talk <
faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hi, Ashley,
>
> All great ideas, but something occurred to me last night that I don't
> think of in time.
>
> Although we all gave great ideas, I'm suspecting Andrew needs to be
> listened to.
>
> I was one that said you need to become a problem-solver, that is true, but
> one of my personal weaknesses is always trying to be in problem solving
> mode and forgetting to switch to listening mode.
>
> It's easiest to figure out how to do that when you're in the physical
> presence of another, but harder for me to remember to do, otherwise.
>
>
>
> Judy
> sent from the HIMS Android braille tablet
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ashley Bramlett via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Sunday, August 11, 2024 06:55 PM
> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion" <
> faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> CC: Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Faith-Talk] serving and connection and closing thoughts
> about involvement
>
> Andrew,
> Last word from me to you as I wish to respect the list and not clutter it
> too much!
> First, change subject lines please when you are not talking about the old
> subject.
> Second, we understand you are lonely and bored and have suggested ways to
> be involved. I said to talk to your church leaders about what you want to
> do and how to include you. If they do not have a particular group or
> activity you want, offer to start it. You can start with simple things like
> in the youth ministry, offer to lead some games or activities. Its as easy
> as bringing in card games  or board games to play.
> You could even do something as simple as bringing in an article or
> described Christian Movie like Ten commandments and then lead a discussion
> about it!
> You could bring in recorded music and discuss what it means to people.
> Nothing will change unless you advocate and speak up.
> I suggest simple things that do not require many skills or planning
> because you are new to it and told us you do not know contracted braille.
>
> Third and finally, your rant about the end times rubs me the wrong way and
> frankly I do not appreciate this.
> This is an extreme view IMO. This is so dark and not productive to hear
> and I will not respond to that again and likely other listers will not
> either!
> As for your views on the government and pandemic restrictions, I agree.
> Its off topic though. I will just say that it hurt me immensely.
> I, too, was mad at the government and was losing activities. It was so bad
> living with my paranoid mom that I lost independence because she did not
> want me touching things so much out of the house for fear I'd touch the
> virus and bring it home.
> In 2020, it was a very dark time and one of the most hopeless times of my
> life; I could not even volunteer outside the house to keep my skills fresh.
> Very isolating time then.
> So many business were forced to close due to the government restrictions.
> Oh, and yes, I hate masks and also refused to wear them accept for in
> places where it was required like a medical office
> I also hate the shots. I had a reaction to a booster shot and will not get
> another one. It was so aweful It was an extreme rash that really hurt my
> arm.
>
> Again, start changing subject lines and being nicer and constructive. If
> you do not do this, I'm going to write Linda about this because we do not
> deserve to hear your rants and doom and gloom about the end times and also
> have no idea what you are going to write because of your failure to change
> subject lines.
> A subject line should match the content you are writing about.
>
> Thanks.
> And I'll pray for you that you can move forward because you can do things.
> You were made by God for a reason and he obviously created you with some
> good abilities otherwise you would not have subscribed to the list and told
> us your questions and concerns.
>
>
> Blessings to all!
>
> From
> Ashley Bramlett
>
> From: andrew edgcumbe <rollercoasterman86 at gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2024 9:22 PM
> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion <
> faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: bookwormahb at earthlink.net
> Subject: Re: [Faith-Talk] serving and connection and thanks for advice
>
> I also think i have not come across the right people  so far that have a
> pausative attitude  but to find that better medium
> I don't expect every day to be a party i fully get it but something that
> would put me in a better place as a person.
>
> I had a real hard time with the 2020 stuff and while i maybe didn't get
> put in a bad place I was mad at the government and was very mad at loosing
> activities to do and really I refused to ware a mask I still feel to this
> day that it was hard on people's mental health and i feel personally this
> is my opinion only that this is a runner up to a society that government
> uses a far left approach and a very  very marscial law type of socity i
> done so much studdy on this online and through locals and I felt not just
> felt i senced evil in the air and  I felt that this whole pendemick was a
> scam and a fear or to make people be full of fear  from the devil himself.
>
> When I can't do things or couldn't do things during that time period i was
> very mad and i did my own research on it.
>
> I personally feel that  this iwa was a practice for the one world system
> that the bible talks about and i take thi these things very seriously when
> it comes to this when you are forced to take a shot in order to enter a
> restaurant at least canada  was like that then it starts reminding me of a
> very marksis society or lets just reminds me of a society under marcial law
> i know we are not totally there yet but i am convinced from my research
> that we will be.
>
> but most people are not waking up to the truth.
>
> I don't think i even want any more of those shots that they forced us all
> to have.
> I know your going to say this has nothing to do to  when it comes to God
> but to me it does. to me  when a government forces you to do stuff that is
> not even a law and when evil is pushed on us then this is a society that is
> going down. Yes we need to obery e obey government but when it is not law i
> have no desire to obey it. and if those laws are not of god i won't do it.
>
> Canada is starting to do medically assisted su assusides and stuff next
> they will push it for people with disabilities.
>
>  But what i am trying to say nobody is waking up at least not many are
> awake in my opinion.  and i think this is going to become a one world and
> it is happening just search for agenda 2030 or agenda 2040  or great world
> reset  I am all over that information.
>
> But what I am saying is things happening that is going to make it a one
> world everything.
>
> but enough about that for now but for me  they are practi practicing how
> to heard us right in and makes  make us do stuff.
>
> However I myself think i know what is best for me like I said i have done
> counciling off and on.
> it is due to lack of activity.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 11, 2024 at 6:51 PM Ashley Bramlett via Faith-Talk <
> faith-talk at nfbnet.org <mailto:faith-talk at nfbnet.org> > wrote:
> Linda,
> Thanks for your general advice; its good for all of us although first
> directed to Andrew.
> I think Andrew is a lonely person with some mental challenges he needs help
> with.
> Its hard, but I would not take it personally.
> Its obvious he is in an angry state and he even said on list he can lash
> out
> at others.
> I'm sorry to hear you were treated this way, especially since you are a
> volunteer running the list.
> No one deserves that. I cannot speak for others, but I did not get any
> emails so far.
>
> Andrew, if you read this, I hope you apologize to Linda.
> Next, I hope you get some counseling for what you are going through. There
> are free crisis hotlines in the USA and I am sure there is something where
> you live.
>
> Next, set some goals. You have some desires but do not know where you want
> to be serving. Think of it and go for it. I suggest having a few plans. So
> if Plan A does not work, do plan B.
>
> What Andrew just wrote is scary. I saw him write a thought of suicide when
> he said,
> "I want nothing more to get out of this crazy world we are in through
> rapture or for god to get me out of this mess.
> That is all i really think about at times i just want to escape to heaven."
>
> So what I see Andrew write is he wants to go to heaven now and feels the
> world is crazy and he has nothing to give.
> Our views differ on the rapture. I do not think its quite coming although
> there may be some signs of it.
> To me thinking about the end times is sickening as I want the world to
> improve, not come to an end. I hope we all can be positive here and give
> advice and not say and think gloomy things like Andrew.
>
> I do believe we have a world in chaos. We cannot control when we may die
> usually unless you have a terminal disease and know you cannot treat
> something. We cannot control the world and the wars going on.
>
> What we can control is our own actions. We can live and set an example by
> living like Christ did.
> What we can control is what we do and whether we live a healthy life.
>
> AS its Sunday, I think about Christ's word. Let his word of the Bible guide
> you and live to make the world better.
> Jesus said in the gospels, "go and make disciples of all nations."
>
> Blessings to all.
>
> I will write a few new subjects to get us thinking about other stuff.
>
> Take care.
> Ashley
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