[Faith-Talk] serving and connection and closing thoughts about involvement

[andrew edgcumbe]

try putting a 1 in front of the 226. sometimes some have trouble.

On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 5:23 PM Misty Kienzynski via Faith-Talk <
faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Weirdly, his WhatsApp number isn’t working for me.
>
> I remember he said that he works best with voice, so I tried this way.
>
> Andrew or anyone, if y’all could help me with whatever’s going on with
> this, that’d be great.
>
> If I don’t hear here (hear here, hehehehehehehehehehe), I’ll try and
> contact him off-list via e-mail initially.
> —Misty, your friendly neighborhood non-techie …and horrible humorist:)
>
>
>
> Bonitas non est pessimis esse meliorem. — L. Annaeus Seneca
>
>
> > On Aug 12, 2024, at 5:11 PM, Linda Mentink via Faith-Talk <
> faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Misty,
> >
> > Welcome! I'm glad that you, too, decided not to lurk:
> >
> > I think that contacting Andrew privately is a GREAT idea. He's better
> one-on-one. I wrote him this morning, and he apologized. I accepted his
> apology, of course.
> >
> > Blessings,
> >
> > Linda
> >
> >
> >> On Aug 12, 2024 3:58 PM, Misty Kienzynski via Faith-Talk <
> faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Greetings.
> >>
> >> I am a recent member of this list and, up ‘til now, entirely a lurker.
> >>
> >> However, I would like to contribute a few quick things.
> >>
> >> First, I am at least somewhat familiar with what depression can do to a
> person in terms of emotional state, self-esteem and motivation. Admittedly,
> this is not because I am clinically depressed myself, but one of my closest
> (sighted) friends struggles with low-grade clinical depression on a daily
> basis along with bouts of more serious depression. I have also read up on
> the subject so as to better understand him as well as others I know, both
> blind and sighted, who struggle with the condition.
> >>
> >> Depression can lie to you. Depression can cause you no longer to want
> to live. Depression makes you feel like you don’t want to get out of bed in
> the morning. Depression can tell you that you are not enough, that you are
> worthless, etc. etc. This is not something that is easily controlled or
> controlled at all. Sans miraculous divine intervention, it is not something
> that can simply be prayed out of existence. It must be understood,
> empathized with, worked with on its level, where it is. People who struggle
> with depression must be understood and worked with where they are.
> >>
> >> Finally, I know that we are very often told that feelings mean nothing.
> This almost seems to be an article of faith within so many of our
> communities. However, I would beg to differ. Emotions do mean something. We
> live in a fallen world and so-called “negative emotions” are a perfectly
> understandable response to this fallen world. It is OK not to be OK. I will
> say it again - it is OK not to be OK. (Of course I mean this in reference
> to typical emotional balance.) I really wish we would stop denying
> ourselves by denying our emotions. It is neither authentic nor healthy nor
> helpful to so many of us who feel alone in these so-called “negative
> emotions”.
> >>
> >> I have seen some very judgmental and, I would argue, un-Christian
> responses to this person who is struggling mightily and apparently has been
> struggling mightily for some time now.
> >>
> >> I just thought some folks on this list could use a little depression
> primer, because it seems that this could be a lot of our OP’s challenge.
> >>
> >> I know I plan to reach out personally to him myself instead of waiting
> for him to do so, given what I understand about depression and lack of
> motivation.
> >> —
> >>
> >> Misty K. — your friendly neighborhood INFJ/empath
> >>
> >> Bonitas non est pessimis esse meliorem. — L. Annaeus Seneca
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