[Flagdu] FW: [nagdu] A CCB resolution on changes to havecertification for service dogs

ncbootman at gmail.com ncbootman at gmail.com
Wed Apr 2 23:43:02 UTC 2014


Come on NAGDU and California Council of the Blind. This action will in no 
way curb the use of fake service animals. It only penalizes me the service 
dog user and makes it harder for me to work my dog.

ID's are useless. I can make one within 5 minutes with my computer and no 
business can possibly know all of the training programs. So, I'll just call 
mine Forever Together Service Dogs and I'm good to go cause nobody has time 
to let me in and try to find my company.

Stopping the sale of service animal gear is ludicrous. I'll save money and 
work a little harder then. A good leather worker can buy all of the needed 
supplies for a harness at the leather shop and all other equipment can be 
made probably for a fraction of the cost I'd pay anyway. If you make me buy 
it from my school, well, my cost to use a guide dog just increased 
tremendously. I buy nothing from my school because items are ridiculous to 
make a profit and I've told them so.

What ever happened to making the penalty severe enough to make a difference. 
It's a misdemeanor for anything related to service animals. Make the penalty 
strong enough that the nonservice animal owner will not want to deal with 
the legal issues.

Businesses are already educated for the most part and this will be an 
ongoing process forever. Businesses open and close everyday.

Another issue not even mentioned is the behavior of the dog. I don't care if 
it is a service dog or not, the business has the right to ask that animal to 
leave. So, I shouldn't have to defend my service animal from fake designer 
pet. The business should put the pet out for disruption just like they would 
if it were my dog. If that designer type dog is acting appropriately like a 
service dog should, then he gets to stay. Business don't need to be 
inquiring into medical issues and mental issues and making judgment calls of 
what is or isn't a service animal.

I have 4 tags on my dog now. If there are more licenses and registrations, 
I'll be wearing the ID collection instead of her due to the heftiness of the 
mess. Today most service animal handlers do not even have their required 
tags on their dog such as rabies. Adding one or a dozen more won't change 
anything except make me decide it just isn't worth it all.

Greg

-----Original Message----- 
From: Sherrill O'Brien
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 4:58 PM
To: 'Florida Association of Guide Dog Users'
Subject: [Flagdu] FW: [nagdu] A CCB resolution on changes to 
havecertification for service dogs

Hello all,

I wanted to pass along this email from the nagdu list which of course is
getting a flurry of responses.
The following resolution is from the California Council of the Blind, to be
presented at their state convention. I'd love to hear your thoughts. How big
a problem is this really, and how can we help businesses to deal with this
challenge?
Sherrill

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of L Gwizdak
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 2:45 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: [nagdu] A CCB resolution on changes to have certification for
service dogs

Whereas: Title III of the Americans with Disabilities Act defines the rights
of people with disabilities to access places of public accommodation, and

Whereas: These access rights are extended to service animal handlers as
defined in the 2011 ADA Accessibility Guidelines, and

Whereas: These service animal access rights are also guaranteed by numerous
state and local statutes, and

Whereas, Due to weaknesses in the relevant legislation and the general
ignorance that exists about the legal definition of service animals and of
their access rights, there exists an epidemic of persons fraudulently
bringing their pets into places of public accommodation under the pretext
that they are service animals, and

Whereas, The presence and bad behavior of fake service animals in places of
public accommodation places the access rights of legitimate service animal
handlers at risk, Therefore be it

Resolved by Guide Dog Users of California meeting at the Arden West Hilton
Hotel in Sacramento, California on April 12, 2014 that this organization
shall strive to put an end to service animal fraud by  actively
participating in a coalition of like-minded groups to advocate for the
following changes in law and to engage in  other related activities.

1. The coalition shall seek changes to ADA regulations and to other relevant
federal statutes and regulations  as follows.

1.1. The ADA regulations must be amended to permit providers of public
accommodations to require service animal handlers to show documentation to
verify the status of their animals as a condition for extending their
accommodation rights to their animals.

1.2. Federal law must permit states and local governments to enact service
animal licensure requirements to make it easier for providers of public
accommodations to distinguish service animals from pets, provided that such
licensure requirements do not impede the access rights of service animal
handlers and that the licensure requirements are no more costly than those
imposed on pet owners..

1.3. Federal law must  restrict  the interstate sale of service animal
identification products to legitimate service animal training programs and
to individuals who can provide proof of the status of their service animals.
Vendors who fail to follow these requirements must be subject to fines large
enough to discourage the traffic in fake service animal products.

2. The coalition must develop model state laws and regulations as described
below and then advocate throughout the nation for the enactment of these
statutes.

2.1. States must implement service animal license laws compliant with item
1.2 above.  These laws must provide for the licensing of animals issued
through recognized training programs and also provide for the licensing of
self-trained service animals.

2.2. States must enact prohibitions on the intrastate sale of fraudulent
service animal identification products that are comparable to the
prohibitions described in item 1.3.

3. The Coalition shall develop and execute an education campaign to inform
the public about the definition of a service animal, about the access rights
of service animal handlers and about the negative consequences of and the
legal penalties for service animal fraud.


Frank Welte
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mardi Hadfield" <wolfsinger.lakota at gmail.com>
To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] It's a go


> Jewel, good luck in your class.Hope you get that special dog and have many
> years of partnership.I hope you won't get rained on to much,lol.Have a
> great time in class. Mardi and Shaman and Neechee.
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