[Greater-baltimore] Greater-baltimore Digest, Vol 94, Issue 11

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I apologize for being vague in my request fore a reader.? I need a sighted reader to 
review real estate contract packages and personal mail.


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   1. Reader Recommendations Needed for Realtor (tinacares4u at aol.com) 
   2. Re: Reader Recommendations Needed for  Realtor (David Andrews) 
   3. Re: Greater-baltimore Digest, Vol 94, Issue 10 
      (maryellethompson008 at comcast.net) 
   4. Re: Greater-baltimore Digest, Vol 94, Issue 10 (Danielsen, Chris) 
   5. Re: [Greater-Baltimore] Greater-Baltimore	Digest, Vol 94, 
      Issue 10 (Othman, Ronza (CMS/OEOCR)) 
   6. Re: [Greater-Baltimore] Greater-Baltimore Digest, Vol 94, 
      Issue 10 (Bernadette Jacobs) 
 
 
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Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 16:05:42 -0400 (EDT) 
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Subject: [Greater-baltimore] Reader Recommendations Needed for Realtor 
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Good afternoon members: 
? 
I am a Realtor in the state of Maryland's greater Baltimore area and am in need  
of a reader.? Please let me know if you have any recommendations. 
? 
Thank you for your time. 
? 
Tina Gross-Jones 
Celebrity Associates Real Estate Service, Inc410-702-7272 (office) 
? 
  
 
 
 
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Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 18:29:09 -0500 
From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> 
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	Realtor 
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When you say a "reader" do you mean a human reader -- or a PC or  
phone based OCR system? 
 
Dave 
 
At 03:05 PM 5/20/2013, you wrote: 
>Good afternoon members: 
>? 
>I am a Realtor in the state of Maryland's greater Baltimore area and  
>am in need of a reader.? Please let me know if you have any recommendations. 
>? 
>Thank you for your time. 
>? 
>Tina Gross-Jones 
>Celebrity Associates Real Estate Service, Inc410-702-7272 (office) 
>? 
 
 
 
 
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Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 23:47:44 +0000 (UTC) 
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Subject: Re: [Greater-baltimore] Greater-baltimore Digest, Vol 94, 
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Chris, this is a deplorable situation. I am very sorry I wasn't able to assist  
with the picnic. I intend to be on hand next year. We have been working on  
showing chapter members the workings on the kitchen, but to no avail, obviously.  
Perhaps it is best to not use the kitchen (and maybe the dining room) for  
chapter breakfast.? I suggest that we begin to use the lunchroom since we will  
be serving predominantly bagels, donuts, fruit, and the like.? It should also  
prove to be less expense for the chapter to have a less expensive menu. And with  
the coming nicer weather people can eat on the deck off of the lunchroom. ?I am  
sorry it has come to this. We should talk about this at the chapter meeting. It  
is obvious that our chapter doesn't understand the privilege we have of using  
the National Center.  
 
 
 
Mary Ellen  
 
 
 
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From: "Danielsen, Chris" <CDanielsen at nfb.org>  
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Dear fellow Federationists:  
 
I have recently received reports from our staff at the NFB Jernigan Institute  
that the kitchen has been left in a state of uncleanliness after chapter  
breakfasts and after the chapter picnic. In addition, after the picnic, the oven  
and industrial dishwasher were left on, posing a serious safety hazard. At the  
meeting on Saturday, we also discussed the fact that we cannot continue to have  
events like the chapter breakfasts, and even the picnic and repast, if people  
are not willing to take responsibility for them. As all of you know, our staff  
compliment has been reduced due to finances, and that means that staff at the  
NFB can't go behind everyone using the kitchen to make sure that things are left  
in order and that there are no safety hazards. For the time being, I am asking  
that those who have volunteered to deal with breakfast not plan to cook anything  
on Center premises and to use the actual kitchen as little as possible. In other  
words, plan to bring donuts, fruit, bagels 
 , and other items that are premade and can be easily served with existing  
chapter supplies. We will also soon discuss how we can implement proper  
procedures to make sure that events like the picnic and repast are conducted  
safely. We have conducted such events safely in the past and I suspect we can do  
so again, but if we cannot find volunteers willing to take full responsibility  
for making sure that our facilities are returned to the state of cleanliness  
that existed before the event, and that all appliances are turned off and all  
other safety precautions taken, then we may need to reconsider whether we can  
have such events, or at least whether we ought to scale them down significantly.  
 
 
I am copying my colleagues on staff on this message as well. As chapter  
president, I am ultimately responsible for the chapter's activities, so I  
apologize on behalf of the chapter to you for leaving a mess for you to clean up  
and for the risks to our personnel and property posed by the recent incidents.  
 
Sincerely:  
 
Chris Danielsen  
 
 
Vehicle Donations Take the Blind Further. Donate your car to the National  
Federation of the Blind today! ?For more information, please visit  
www.carshelpingtheblind.org<http://www.carshelpingtheblind.org> or call  
1-855-659-9314  
 
Christopher S. Danielsen, J.D.  
Director of Public Relations  
National Federation of the Blind  
200 East Wells Street  
Baltimore, MD 21230  
Office: (410) 659-9314, extension 2330  
Mobile: (410) 262-1281  
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Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 00:20:00 +0000 
From: "Danielsen, Chris" <CDanielsen at nfb.org> 
To: NFB of Maryland Baltimore Chapter Discussion List 
	<greater-baltimore at nfbnet.org> 
Subject: Re: [Greater-baltimore] Greater-baltimore Digest, Vol 94, 
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Thanks Maryellen, for the help you have provided in the past and the help you  
will no doubt provide in the future. I realize that my first e-mail on this  
topic took on a scolding tone, so I want to say that ultimately, as chapter  
president, I am just as responsible for what happened as those involved, in the  
sense that I needed to do a better job of monitoring what was going on. The  
point is not to assign blame but to prevent similar incidents in the future. We  
are just lucky that this one did not result in damage to life and property I do  
believe that a moratorium on use of the kitchen is in order at least until we  
can get a system in place for making sure that the facility is properly cared  
for and, most importantly, that all appliances are turned off and things are  
left in a safe condition. That may involve drafting staff volunteers to be on  
hand to make sure all runs smoothly, or preparing a checklist of everything that  
must be done, cleaned, and/or put away before those  
 preparing any meal leave the kitchen or dining room. If anyone believes that my  
reaction was too strong, please remember that cleaning up is one thing, albeit a  
very important one, but leaving an oven on is potentially very dangerous. I am  
sure that it was not done intentionally, but it was done nonetheless and it must  
not happen again. 
 
Chris 
 
On May 20, 2013, at 7:47 PM, <maryellethompson008 at comcast.net> 
 wrote: 
 
>  
>  
> Chris, this is a deplorable situation. I am very sorry I wasn't able to assist  
with the picnic. I intend to be on hand next year. We have been working on  
showing chapter members the workings on the kitchen, but to no avail, obviously.  
Perhaps it is best to not use the kitchen (and maybe the dining room) for  
chapter breakfast.  I suggest that we begin to use the lunchroom since we will  
be serving predominantly bagels, donuts, fruit, and the like.  It should also  
prove to be less expense for the chapter to have a less expensive menu. And with  
the coming nicer weather people can eat on the deck off of the lunchroom.  I am  
sorry it has come to this. We should talk about this at the chapter meeting. It  
is obvious that our chapter doesn't understand the privilege we have of using  
the National Center.  
>  
>  
>  
> Mary Ellen  
>  
>  
>  
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> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 12:14:23 +0000  
> From: "Danielsen, Chris" <CDanielsen at nfb.org>  
> To: "Greater Baltimore Chapter (greater-baltimore at nfbnet.org)"  
>         <greater-baltimore at nfbnet.org>  
> Cc: NCB Staff <NCBStaff at nfb.org>  
> Subject: [Greater-baltimore] Chapter use of National federation of the  
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>  
> Dear fellow Federationists:  
>  
> I have recently received reports from our staff at the NFB Jernigan Institute  
that the kitchen has been left in a state of uncleanliness after chapter  
breakfasts and after the chapter picnic. In addition, after the picnic, the oven  
and industrial dishwasher were left on, posing a serious safety hazard. At the  
meeting on Saturday, we also discussed the fact that we cannot continue to have  
events like the chapter breakfasts, and even the picnic and repast, if people  
are not willing to take responsibility for them. As all of you know, our staff  
compliment has been reduced due to finances, and that means that staff at the  
NFB can't go behind everyone using the kitchen to make sure that things are left  
in order and that there are no safety hazards. For the time being, I am asking  
that those who have volunteered to deal with breakfast not plan to cook anything  
on Center premises and to use the actual kitchen as little as possible. In other  
words, plan to bring donuts, fruit, bage 
 ls, and other items that are premade and can be easily served with existing  
chapter supplies. We will also soon discuss how we can implement proper  
procedures to make sure that events like the picnic and repast are conducted  
safely. We have conducted such events safely in the past and I suspect we can do  
so again, but if we cannot find volunteers willing to take full responsibility  
for making sure that our facilities are returned to the state of cleanliness  
that existed before the event, and that all appliances are turned off and all  
other safety precautions taken, then we may need to reconsider whether we can  
have such events, or at least whether we ought to scale them down significantly.  
 
>  
> I am copying my colleagues on staff on this message as well. As chapter  
president, I am ultimately responsible for the chapter's activities, so I  
apologize on behalf of the chapter to you for leaving a mess for you to clean up  
and for the risks to our personnel and property posed by the recent incidents.  
>  
> Sincerely:  
>  
> Chris Danielsen  
>  
>  
> Vehicle Donations Take the Blind Further. Donate your car to the National  
Federation of the Blind today!  For more information, please visit  
www.carshelpingtheblind.org<http://www.carshelpingtheblind.org> or call  
1-855-659-9314  
>  
> Christopher S. Danielsen, J.D.  
> Director of Public Relations  
> National Federation of the Blind  
> 200 East Wells Street  
> Baltimore, MD 21230  
> Office: (410) 659-9314, extension 2330  
> Mobile: (410) 262-1281  
> E-mail: cdanielsen at nfb.org<mailto:cdanielsen at nfb.org>  
> www.nfb.org  
>  
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Message: 5 
Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 00:27:33 +0000 
From: "Othman, Ronza (CMS/OEOCR)" <Ronza.Othman at cms.hhs.gov> 
To: NFB of Maryland Baltimore Chapter Discussion List 
	<greater-baltimore at nfbnet.org> 
Subject: Re: [Greater-baltimore] [Greater-Baltimore] Greater-Baltimore 
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Chris, 
 
I don't think your tone was too harsh at all, and I don't think you should  
shoulder any of the blame.  We, each of us who uses the kitchen, is an adult,  
and we have been entrusted with the property of the entire organization's  
membership.  If folks don't know how to use certain appliances, they should ask  
for help.  What happened this weekend was dangerous, it was reckless, and it was  
unacceptable.  If we had been using a commercial space at which we paid rent,  
we'd have been evicted, and we'd have deserved it.  Thank goodness the NCB staff  
and leadership has decided to be generous and allow us to stay on-site.  I for  
one, wouldn't blame them if they refused to allow us to use their equipment ever  
again. 
 
Just my thoughts. 
 
Ronza 
 
 
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From: Greater-baltimore [mailto:greater-baltimore-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf  
Of Danielsen, Chris 
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 8:20 PM 
To: NFB of Maryland Baltimore Chapter Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [Greater-baltimore] Greater-baltimore Digest, Vol 94, Issue 10 
 
Thanks Maryellen, for the help you have provided in the past and the help you  
will no doubt provide in the future. I realize that my first e-mail on this  
topic took on a scolding tone, so I want to say that ultimately, as chapter  
president, I am just as responsible for what happened as those involved, in the  
sense that I needed to do a better job of monitoring what was going on. The  
point is not to assign blame but to prevent similar incidents in the future. We  
are just lucky that this one did not result in damage to life and property I do  
believe that a moratorium on use of the kitchen is in order at least until we  
can get a system in place for making sure that the facility is properly cared  
for and, most importantly, that all appliances are turned off and things are  
left in a safe condition. That may involve drafting staff volunteers to be on  
hand to make sure all runs smoothly, or preparing a checklist of everything that  
must be done, cleaned, and/or put away before those  
 preparing any meal leave the kitchen or dining room. If anyone believes that my  
reaction was too strong, please remember that cleaning up is one thing, albeit a  
very important one, but leaving an oven on is potentially very dangerous. I am  
sure that it was not done intentionally, but it was done nonetheless and it must  
not happen again. 
 
Chris 
 
On May 20, 2013, at 7:47 PM, <maryellethompson008 at comcast.net> 
 wrote: 
 
>  
>  
> Chris, this is a deplorable situation. I am very sorry I wasn't able to assist  
with the picnic. I intend to be on hand next year. We have been working on  
showing chapter members the workings on the kitchen, but to no avail, obviously.  
Perhaps it is best to not use the kitchen (and maybe the dining room) for  
chapter breakfast.  I suggest that we begin to use the lunchroom since we will  
be serving predominantly bagels, donuts, fruit, and the like.  It should also  
prove to be less expense for the chapter to have a less expensive menu. And with  
the coming nicer weather people can eat on the deck off of the lunchroom.  I am  
sorry it has come to this. We should talk about this at the chapter meeting. It  
is obvious that our chapter doesn't understand the privilege we have of using  
the National Center.  
>  
>  
>  
> Mary Ellen 
>  
>  
>  
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>  
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>  
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> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 12:14:23 +0000 
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> Dear fellow Federationists:  
>  
> I have recently received reports from our staff at the NFB Jernigan Institute  
that the kitchen has been left in a state of uncleanliness after chapter  
breakfasts and after the chapter picnic. In addition, after the picnic, the oven  
and industrial dishwasher were left on, posing a serious safety hazard. At the  
meeting on Saturday, we also discussed the fact that we cannot continue to have  
events like the chapter breakfasts, and even the picnic and repast, if people  
are not willing to take responsibility for them. As all of you know, our staff  
compliment has been reduced due to finances, and that means that staff at the  
NFB can't go behind everyone using the kitchen to make sure that things are left  
in order and that there are no safety hazards. For the time being, I am asking  
that those who have volunteered to deal with breakfast not plan to cook anything  
on Center premises and to use the actual kitchen as little as possible. In other  
words, plan to bring donuts, fruit, bage 
 ls, and other items that are premade and can be easily served with existing  
chapter supplies. We will also soon discuss how we can implement proper  
procedures to make sure that events like the picnic and repast are conducted  
safely. We have conducted such events safely in the past and I suspect we can do  
so again, but if we cannot find volunteers willing to take full responsibility  
for making sure that our facilities are returned to the state of cleanliness  
that existed before the event, and that all appliances are turned off and all  
other safety precautions taken, then we may need to reconsider whether we can  
have such events, or at least whether we ought to scale them down significantly.  
 
>  
> I am copying my colleagues on staff on this message as well. As chapter  
president, I am ultimately responsible for the chapter's activities, so I  
apologize on behalf of the chapter to you for leaving a mess for you to clean up  
and for the risks to our personnel and property posed by the recent incidents.  
>  
> Sincerely:  
>  
> Chris Danielsen 
>  
>  
> Vehicle Donations Take the Blind Further. Donate your car to the  
> National Federation of the Blind today!  For more information, please  
> visit www.carshelpingtheblind.org<http://www.carshelpingtheblind.org>  
> or call 1-855-659-9314 
>  
> Christopher S. Danielsen, J.D.  
> Director of Public Relations 
> National Federation of the Blind 
> 200 East Wells Street 
> Baltimore, MD 21230 
> Office: (410) 659-9314, extension 2330 
> Mobile: (410) 262-1281 
> E-mail: cdanielsen at nfb.org<mailto:cdanielsen at nfb.org> 
> www.nfb.org 
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Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 12:00:12 -0400 
From: Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com> 
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On 5/20/13, Othman, Ronza (CMS/OEOCR) <Ronza.Othman at cms.hhs.gov> wrote: 
> Chris, 
> 
> I don't think your tone was too harsh at all, and I don't think you should 
> shoulder any of the blame.  We, each of us who uses the kitchen, is an 
> adult, and we have been entrusted with the property of the entire 
> organization's membership.  If folks don't know how to use certain 
> appliances, they should ask for help.  What happened this weekend was 
> dangerous, it was reckless, and it was unacceptable.  If we had been using a 
> commercial space at which we paid rent, we'd have been evicted, and we'd 
> have deserved it.  Thank goodness the NCB staff and leadership has decided 
> to be generous and allow us to stay on-site.  I for one, wouldn't blame them 
> if they refused to allow us to use their equipment ever again. 
> 
> Just my thoughts. 
> 
> Ronza 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Greater-baltimore [mailto:greater-baltimore-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Danielsen, Chris 
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 8:20 PM 
> To: NFB of Maryland Baltimore Chapter Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [Greater-baltimore] Greater-baltimore Digest, Vol 94, Issue 10 
> 
> Thanks Maryellen, for the help you have provided in the past and the help 
> you will no doubt provide in the future. I realize that my first e-mail on 
> this topic took on a scolding tone, so I want to say that ultimately, as 
> chapter president, I am just as responsible for what happened as those 
> involved, in the sense that I needed to do a better job of monitoring what 
> was going on. The point is not to assign blame but to prevent similar 
> incidents in the future. We are just lucky that this one did not result in 
> damage to life and property I do believe that a moratorium on use of the 
> kitchen is in order at least until we can get a system in place for making 
> sure that the facility is properly cared for and, most importantly, that all 
> appliances are turned off and things are left in a safe condition. That may 
> involve drafting staff volunteers to be on hand to make sure all runs 
> smoothly, or preparing a checklist of everything that must be done, cleaned, 
> and/or put away before those preparing any meal leave the kitchen or dining 
> room. If anyone believes that my reaction was too strong, please remember 
> that cleaning up is one thing, albeit a very important one, but leaving an 
> oven on is potentially very dangerous. I am sure that it was not done 
> intentionally, but it was done nonetheless and it must not happen again. 
> 
> Chris 
> 
> On May 20, 2013, at 7:47 PM, <maryellethompson008 at comcast.net> 
>  wrote: 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Chris, this is a deplorable situation. I am very sorry I wasn't able to 
>> assist with the picnic. I intend to be on hand next year. We have been 
>> working on showing chapter members the workings on the kitchen, but to no 
>> avail, obviously. Perhaps it is best to not use the kitchen (and maybe the 
>> dining room) for chapter breakfast.  I suggest that we begin to use the 
>> lunchroom since we will be serving predominantly bagels, donuts, fruit, 
>> and the like.  It should also prove to be less expense for the chapter to 
>> have a less expensive menu. And with the coming nicer weather people can 
>> eat on the deck off of the lunchroom.  I am sorry it has come to this. We 
>> should talk about this at the chapter meeting. It is obvious that our 
>> chapter doesn't understand the privilege we have of using the National 
>> Center. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Mary Ellen 
>> 
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>>    1. Chapter use of National federation of the Blind kitchen and 
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>> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 12:14:23 +0000 
>> From: "Danielsen, Chris" <CDanielsen at nfb.org> 
>> To: "Greater Baltimore Chapter (greater-baltimore at nfbnet.org)" 
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>> Dear fellow Federationists: 
>> 
>> I have recently received reports from our staff at the NFB Jernigan 
>> Institute that the kitchen has been left in a state of uncleanliness after 
>> chapter breakfasts and after the chapter picnic. In addition, after the 
>> picnic, the oven and industrial dishwasher were left on, posing a serious 
>> safety hazard. At the meeting on Saturday, we also discussed the fact that 
>> we cannot continue to have events like the chapter breakfasts, and even 
>> the picnic and repast, if people are not willing to take responsibility 
>> for them. As all of you know, our staff compliment has been reduced due to 
>> finances, and that means that staff at the NFB can't go behind everyone 
>> using the kitchen to make sure that things are left in order and that 
>> there are no safety hazards. For the time being, I am asking that those 
>> who have volunteered to deal with breakfast not plan to cook anything on 
>> Center premises and to use the actual kitchen as little as possible. In 
>> other words, plan to bring donuts, fruit, bagels, and other items that are 
>> premade and can be easily served with existing chapter supplies. We will 
>> also soon discuss how we can implement proper procedures to make sure that 
>> events like the picnic and repast are conducted safely. We have conducted 
>> such events safely in the past and I suspect we can do so again, but if we 
>> cannot find volunteers willing to take full responsibility for making sure 
>> that our facilities are returned to the state of cleanliness that existed 
>> before the event, and that all appliances are turned off and all other 
>> safety precautions taken, then we may need to reconsider whether we can 
>> have such events, or at least whether we ought to scale them down 
>> significantly. 
>> 
>> I am copying my colleagues on staff on this message as well. As chapter 
>> president, I am ultimately responsible for the chapter's activities, so I 
>> apologize on behalf of the chapter to you for leaving a mess for you to 
>> clean up and for the risks to our personnel and property posed by the 
>> recent incidents. 
>> 
>> Sincerely: 
>> 
>> Chris Danielsen 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> Christopher S. Danielsen, J.D. 
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Good Morning Chris and All!! 
 
Firstly, RE; being shown how to use the newly purchased kitchen 
equipment, I've never once been invited to be taught how to use it. 
Maybe if I had been, I might have been more inclined to volunteer to 
prepare something there.  I guess I never knew what it would take or 
what was required to be invited to learn how to use it. 
 
As for the tone of the rest of everyone's contributions here, I am in 
complete agreement except that prepared food, (ready-made), is far, 
more expensive than buying whatever it takes to prepare something.  I 
can't imagine going out to buy a hundred doughnuts or bagels, (for 
that matter).  It's a whole lot easier and far less work simply 
feeding my own children breakfast at home anyway, which is usually 
what we do.  I, too, wish to extend my appologies and condolences to 
the NCB Staff as I too, think that what happened was an absolute 
disgrace and certainly portrays a horrible immage of blindness which 
we've been trying to combat now here for the last 70-plus years??? 
 
Bernie 
 
 
 
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