[gui-talk] Polling place access (was Re: political websites)

Joel Deutsch jdeutsch at dslextreme.com
Thu Nov 6 21:26:45 UTC 2008


L. (I forget what name that stands for),

No worries. We're on the same page in terms of sensibilities, insofar as our 
different life experience allows for. If I seemed a little oversensitive, 
it's because on certain mailing lists (ahem) this partial with a progressive 
retinal degeneration has endured a few uncomfortable encounters with a 
certain blind service organization's politically correct positions on 
various life issues. So the feathers tend to rustle at the slightest breeze, 
sometimes.

Joel
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "tribble" <lauraeaves at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Polling place access (was Re: political websites)


oh, Joel -- I certainly didn't mean to ruffle your feathers -- sorry if the
wording of my mail made you take it that way. I am over 50 myself and not
still proactively taking on all challenges like I did in my youth and. I
remember how many toes I stepped on then and I have to groan. I remember not
only signing up for every class no one thought I could take and even forcing
my brothers to use the politically correct term of "inconvenience" rather
than the word "handicapped".   (I wonder how they stood living with
me...*smile*)
As for voting, I wasn't comparing the situation to having a blind person
selling pencils on the street corner... I just was revelling in the long
overdue convenience of voting independently.
Take care.
--le

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joel Deutsch" <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com>
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Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Polling place access (was Re: political websites)


I do a lot for myself. A very lot. I've only been seriously low vision for
less than ten years of my 64, and in this case I chose to not care so much
about the principle of doing everything for myself if it was going to be as
much of a hassle as it turned out because the polling place was as jammed
and noisy as it was and the precinct volunteer didn't have the time to
explain things clearly to me, and I was all alone with no one to help clear
up for me what was happening,  or why I didn't have complete control of the
device if it was there for the sake of my blind access, until a kind
stranger intervened, which I considered a welcome miracle, because it used
to be with my eyes that I could appeal for help to someone nearby in a
difficult situation, an ability that's gone now with the loss of macular
vision. So as far as I'm concerned, it worked out fine because I was willing
to hang loose and not stand on the kind of principle that's so often held up
in blind circles as being the only acceptable way to go if you don't want
everyone to think people with white canes should just sit on the corner
selling pencils. I don't identify with that way of thinking about life in
connection with losing my vision, except when it really matters to me, in
which case I'm principled and not a bit shy or lazy. But in this case, I was
fine with being rescued, not defeated or humiliated. Not at all. To each his
own when it comes to doing what feels appropriate and good for the
self-esteem and confidence. Everyone's mileage varies, to make a turn on the
popular mailing list disclaimer which has joined the phrase In My Humble
Opinion (IMHO).
<lauraeaves at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Polling place access (was Re: political websites)


Ok, I just am one who likes doing things myself. FWIW, a family member was
there also and could have helped me, but I wanted to experience voting
independently for the first time in my life.
Oh well.  It has been fascinating political year -- but it's good it's
over -- back to the normal stuff in the news, and boring late night
comedy...  (I had to laugh at Saturday Night Live last Saturday, the skit
with McCain on QVC because he couldn't afford any of the major networks.
He then tried selling some "McCain Fine Gold" and a bunch of other
commemorative items.  It was hilarious.
But now it's all over.  Enjoy and take care.
--le

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joel Deutsch" <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 5:50 PM
Subject: [gui-talk] Polling place access (was Re: political websites)


At my polling place yesterday, I was encouraged (read: nearly forced) to sit
down at a table on which a smallish square plastic-housed device sat. it was
there last election, but I chose not to use it, preferring to just let a
friendly poll worker look at the list of ballot choices I'd typed up and
printed out and do the ballot-punching, reading out to me as required what
they were about to do on each candidate or ballot issue to get my assent. As
I've said here before, I happen to be quite comfortable with that in my
voting precinct, where I feel politically and culturally in friendly
company. if it need be said, I'm all for self sufficiency, where I feel it
matters to me. Which this situation wasn't an example of.

but this time, the poll worker who set me up was really enthusiastic about
my using the little device, because the place was filled with voters as I'd
never seen it before, clogging the voting-booth room of the senior center
and forming a line out the door and down the street. and this was
mid-morning, after the conventional pre-work morning rush was supposed to be
over. So they were feeling short-handed and wanted to not have to spare
someone to vote with me, if they didn't have to.  I could understand this. I
could sympathize. So I sat down there, thinking, okay, so I'll learn
something. I wonder how well this will work for me?

Well, as I said, there's this plastic box thing. On its face are just a few
tactile controls. A quartet of arrows for left and right, up and down, and a
button set well apart from that area and encircled by a raised ridge to
prevent accidental presses. This was the Vote button, I eventually
understood.

"I've never used this thing," I told the guy.

"Well, don't worry," he said, "we've had it here for a couple of elections
and you'll be the very first person to use it."

"Have you ever tried it, yourself?" I asked him? "Do you know how it works?"

"No," he said. "I don't have to know. They give instructions over the
headphones." He was handing me a set of headphones at that moment, and with
one hand I traced the cord to an input jack on the front edge of the device.

"Okay," he said, "Now just put on the headphones." And he walked away. I
can't see well, but I could see him moving away and disappearing entirely.

"Chuck?" I called. "  No answer. So I put on the headphones. Nothing was
coming out of them, not at least for the few seconds I held them onto my
head. I felt around the case of the device for some sort of button that
would start up the audio, but there wasn't any such control, as far as I
could tell. I started calling around, asking "Where's chuck?"

Someone got chuck, who was annoyed. "I told you to put on the headphones,"
he said. "Now put them on." I started to ask how this part of the procedure
worked, but he'd disappeared already. I waited a second then put on the
headphone. A male voice was in the middle of something I'd missed the
beginning of, by a good bit. I sighed and removed the headphones.

"How do I get this going again?" I asked to the hovering forms of  the
faceless people near me. Someone who'd been watching explained that they'd
seen the guy go a few yards away to some sort of computer or something where
he'd pushed a button. That's what had started the audio going. It wasn't
something I, the user, could operate myself. I got up and went to the end of
the registration table nearest me. "I'd like to talk to the precinct
captain," I said to the form sitting behind the table who was just then
taking a completed ballot from someone and handing them their stub. I could
see this in a foggy way.

"I'm busy," he said with annoyance. "And that *was* the precinct captain.
Now just go back and sit down. You're not helping me."

"I think your job is to be helping *me*" I said, going back to stand by that
little machine and try to figure out what to do next.

Just then, a young woman came up to me. "I'm Darcy," she said. the actress.
Remember, we had a nice talk in the laundromat one weekend a couple of
months ago?"

I said I remembered her, and she said she'd just finished her voting and
asked if she could help. I took the folded sheet with my list out of my
pocket and opened it up. "Yeah," I said. "If you could spare a couple of
minutes to just come to the booth with me." She said she wasn't sure that
was legal, and I said I'd just looked up all the rules on a government web
site and could reassure her that it's perfectly legal for you to have a
friend, spouse or anyone you like accompany you at the voting booth.

So she punched all the holes for me while looking at my list and checking
with me before she punched. It took about two minutes, tops. And then we
took the completed ballot to the desk, I got my receipt and a little "I
voted" sticker to put on my shirt, and she walked me outside. "You voted
exactly like I did on everything," she said. "Good," I said. She introduced
me to her boyfriend, who had been waiting outside while she helped me, and
we chatted for a while, and I thanked her again and went off to the bus
stop.

Which all goes to show, it's not a waste of time to be sociable at the
laundromat.


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