[gui-talk] Appeal for info on other screen readers

[Chris & Doris]

I'll forward this to the nvda mailing llists I am on. It would be 
good if not just the commercial screenreading solutions could be 
considered regarding accessibility concerns.  Thanks for giving this 
consideration. I will forward what responses I get from the nvda list.

Cheers,

Doris

At 05:51 AM 11/22/2008 -0500, you wrote:
>Warning to SkypeEnglish:  This is a pretty technical message.  Author
>not responsible for eye glazing. <silly grin>
>
>For various reasons, including some ideas brewed during this week's
>visit I made to Skype headquarters in Tallinn, I have a few
>questions for users of screen readers other than JAWS (I think I know
>JAWS well enough to answer these questions for that one :-) ).
>
>Screen readers of interest:  Window-Eyes, SAToGo, Hal, NVDA, and any
>others currently in use for Windows.
>
>Questions:
>
>1.  Can the reader be made to present a virtual view of a window that
>supports MSAA, and if so, are there special requirements for any MSAA
>roles?  For example, what makes something get called a "link" if not
>just the role of Role_System_Link?
>
>2.  What are the requirements for making an HTML control appear in a
>virtual view.  For example, JAWS can handle IE HTML controls, and I
>assume any other HTML control that (1) answers
>WM_GetObject/ObjID_NativeOM with a standards-compliant Document Object
>Model (DOM) root node, and possibly (2) provides reasonable MSAA
>information.
>
>3.  Same question for RichEdit-style controls:  Can they be
>virtualized and, if so, any special needs or restrictions?  I'm
>particularly interested here in support for subobjects such as
>buttons.  (I know RichEdits can have embedded objects, but I don't yet
>know what kinds.)
>
>Users of Skype 4 Beta will undoubtedly have noticed that Skype 4
>currently boasts some rather unusual "list items" in conversations
>(formerly called "chats"), such as file transfers with Save and Cancel
>buttons, voicemails with Play buttons, etc.  I am trying to determine
>what to recommend as a way to grant us full access to these structures
>without a lot of work, for them or for us.
>
>But this set of questions is also aimed at providing a general idea of
>what is now possible from our side.  JAWS allows me to tell it to
>virtualize windows of a certain class, though there are restrictions
>on how well that can work depending on what MSAA the window offers.
>JAWS can also virtualize HTML and RichEdit windows.  I'm looking for a
>solution that isn't based on just one screen reader though.
>
>Thanks for any info.
>
>
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