[gui-talk] free daisy player

Thu Aug 13 01:37:48 UTC 2009

Joel this is not true.  I don't know where Albert is getting his 
information from, but it is wrong!!!

Dave

At 11:43 PM 8/11/2009, you wrote:
>Al,
>
>I'm being completely serious, here. Until this moment, I was under the
>impression that the Victor Reader Stream is produced by a company called
>HumanWare, and that this company is based in New Zealand or something like
>that. Now you're saying flatly that the NLS is the maker and vendor of the
>Victor Reader Stream? They bought out HumanWare and now manufacture and sell
>the Stream? Can anyone tell me if this is true? Thanks.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
>To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 8:55 PM
>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] free daisy player
>
>
>Keep in mind you'll have to pay for a key if you purchase a unit not
>manufactured by NLS.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
>Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 10:40 PM
>To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] free daisy player
>
>Hey Ray,
>
>ah! Okay, you guys. Not only do I not use a Braille notetaker or this or
>that device, but I'm not signed up with RFB&D at all! that would explain why
>
>this all sounds so strange to me. I don't mean "strange," as in weird. I
>just mean mysterious. So there's some sort of thing where you pay something
>and then you can download something and then you can play it on something.
>Don't even try to explain. Obviously it's over my head because I don't do
>any of this stuff. I'm relieved. Al, you confused the hell out of me! Not
>fair!
>explainn.were y ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Wayne Merritt" <wcmerritt at gmail.com>
>To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:36 PM
>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] free daisy player
>
>
>That's correct. However, I expect that the reasoning for the key is
>still the same, in that you can only play the material on certain
>specialized players due to copyright issues and protecting their
>materials. In other words, if you were hoping to play protected NLS
>content in Windows media or Winamp, it's likely not going to happen
>anytime soon. Hopefully FS and the other notetaker/screen reader
>manufacturers will add the ability to play NLS content soon though.
>That will at least open the door to a new user group, and one that may
>not be as likely to get a specialized player, or who may not have one
>for whatever other reason.
>
>Jmt,
>Wayne
>
>On 8/11/09, Ray Foret jr <rforetjr at comcast.net> wrote:
> > It's okay Joel.  I reckon Albert just got NLS confused with RFB&D.  I
> > believe they do charge for a key, that is ,if I'm not mistaken.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joel Deutsch" <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com>
> > To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 5:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: [gui-talk] free daisy player
> >
> >
> > Albert,
> >
> > I don't understand. Now, I should say up front that I don't use a Daisy
> > player in order to access files either from the NLS BARD program nor
> > anything I read on the NFB Newsline site. But I don't know which of these
> > you are actually referring to, below, although you do specify NLS in your
> > message.
> >
> > But I just don't know what you're talking about. I've never been charged a
> > fee of any sort, nor issued any sort of key, whatever that is, for either
> > of
> > these services. Could you or someone tell me what it is I'm not
> > understanding, here, and what it has to do with Daisy, and what that has
> > to
> > do with whether Freedom Scientific has decided to give away their FS
> > Reader
> > soon? My head is spinning. I can make no sense of this.
> > RS wathse ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
> > To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 1:00 PM
> > Subject: Re: [gui-talk] free daisy player
> >
> >
> > Presently NLS says their publishers keep the bar raised on player
> > accessibility.  This is how they justify charging use $10 for each user
> > key
> > and why their files can't just be played on a computer.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> > Behalf Of Hoffman, Allen
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 1:22 PM
> > To: gui-talk at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: [gui-talk] free daisy player
> >
> > Lets not kid ourselves that its a free daisy player, you can't download
> > it for a computer without JAWS, or run on another Mobile platform.  What
> > we should be doing however, is expressing that this player should be
> > recognized and made legal for NLS and RFB DTB(s).  The concept that NLS
> > books must only be played on "special" devices is simply crazy, outdated
> > thinking that does NOT, in any way represent the wishes of the public
> > they are supposed to be serving.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Allen Hoffman
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