[gui-talk] Downloading to NLS digital player

Thu Aug 13 04:01:39 UTC 2009

Well, I'll bet you mean the cover? This thumb drive has a retractable 
connector, so it's easier to keep clean. But I still worry about breaking it 
off. Oh, well.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sherri" <flmom2006 at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Downloading to NLS digital player

Yes and you have to keep track of the little plug that hides the thumb drive
when not in use.
Sherri
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joel Deutsch" <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Downloading to NLS digital player

> Sherri,
>
> There were only 54 titles on cartridge a month or two ago when I started
> using my player. I'm a big reader, to put it casually, but none of those
> 54
> appealed to me, although I played around with one just to get the hang of
> the player's controls. Then I signed up for the BARD catalogue and began
> downloading, as they have a *whole* lot more titles online at this time.
>
> As I say, they're supposed to start producing and selling blank cartridges
> eventually, whereupon I'll happily go to them. They're not bound to cost
> much, and I'll be happy not to have to stick a thumb drive into the little
> player anymore. They built that baby like a tank in order to protect it
> against mistreatment and breakage, but having to stick a thumb drive into
> it
> makes it suddenly and absurdly vulnerable, because you have to be
> carefully
> how you handle it then so that you don't snap off the thumb drive. it's
> like
> a sedative dart sticking out of the hide of an elephant. Silly. Hopefully
> just transitional.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Sherri" <flmom2006 at gmail.com>
> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 6:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Downloading to NLS digital player
>
>
> Also, there are very few digital books produced in the containers. I think
> there are 75 or something like that. I am Beta testing the digital
> cartridges. I think I will try  your thumb drive idea since I like reading
> with the digital talking book player as well.
> Sherri
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joel Deutsch" <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com>
> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Downloading to NLS digital player
>
>
>> Sherri,
>>
>> I have no idea what they mean by a "remote access." Sorry. No one ever
>> told
>> me anything but what I learned to do, which is that I download a book
>> into
>> its own folder on my hard drive (it consists of a dozen or more files, so
>> you need to keep it away from other such things). Then I plug an old
>> thumb
>> drive into my USB port and copy those files onto it. Then I properly
>> disconnect the thumb drive from my computer (using the safely remove
>> hardware option on my system tray list (Insert F11) in Win XP Home. then
>> I
>> plug the thumb drive into that port on the side of the player. Now the
>> book
>> can be played using the player's controls.
>>
>> One thing to beware: So far as I know, the player's firmware (own
>> internal
>> programming) can't recognize different folders on a thumb drive. So
>> you've
>> got to make sure there aren't any other NLS book files of any kind on the
>> thumb drive when you plug it into the player. They're supposed to update
>> that part of the firmware, and I think eventually someone's supposed to
>> start producing blank cartridges, which you'll then plug into your
>> computer's USB drive with a commonly used type of cord for transferring
>> files, and then you'll slip the cartridge you've just recorded onto into
>> the
>> slot on the player. But both these things aren't happening yet. I mean
>> neither of them is happening. So for now, it's the thumb drive routine
>> for
>> me.
>>
>> What do you mean by this other method you mention? I wasn't aware you
>> could
>> transfer files directly from your computer onto the player. I didn't know
>> it
>> had memory in which it could hold a book and play it. Is this what's
>> meant
>> by "remote access?" It wouldn't seem so, to me, but you never know with
>> these expressions.
>>
>>
>> would hhow, they're ethujb of tfold3er.Nowq the thumb drive
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Sherri" <flmom2006 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 5:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Downloading to NLS digital player
>>
>>
>> Hi Joel, They say in the instructions for the NLS digital player that
>> particular slot is to accommodate a remote access or something like that,
>> but I wondered if you could just plug a thumb drive in there and just
>> download to the player. I hadn't experimented with mine yet, because I
>> also
>> have a Victor Reader Stream.
>> Sherri
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Joel Deutsch" <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com>
>> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 7:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] free daisy player
>>
>>
>>> Wayne,
>>>
>>> I have an NLS digital player and download files to play on it, using a
>>> thumb
>>> drive stuck into the port on its side. Bad design flaw for those who
>>> don't
>>> care to use borrowed cartridges, but someday there will be blank
>>> cartrridges
>>> (which are essentially flash drives in a plastic shell) we can buy to
>>> use
>>> instead of having to stick a thumb drive into the thing.
>>>
>>> anyway, I'm fine with the processs. No problem. I was trying to figure
>>> out
>>> what others were talking about. Thanks, though. No worries.
>>> cartrigges,digitia
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Wayne Merritt" <wcmerritt at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:57 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] free daisy player
>>>
>>>
>>> Joel: there's no extra steps needed to download or play files on an
>>> authorized digital talking book player other than what people have
>>> said here. So as not to get confused, you would go through a process
>>> on the NLS BARD site where you request a key (which is free, as in no
>>> cost to the user), and between nLS and the manufacturer of the player
>>> that you have, you will eventually get a key that you can use to
>>> authorize the player to play the digital talking books with. If anyone
>>> has paid $10 or $20 for an NLS key, then you paid too much since the
>>> key is FREE, written in all caps. Pardon me for shouting, but this
>>> fact has been stated numerous times by myself and other people.
>>> Honestly folks, I'm getting tired of deleting messages for a thread
>>> that has started to ware thin. Unless something different needs to be
>>> said, this will likely be the last one I reply to on this topic. So
>>> far,the only service where you would pay for a key to play material
>>> from is Recording for the Blind and Dyslexic. You could download
>>> material from the BARD site, but if you don't have an authorized NLS
>>> player, which includes the VR Strea, GW Micro's Booksense, the
>>> Plextalk Pocket, and/or the Icon/Braille Plus Mobile manager, or any
>>> other player that is authorized to play NLS content including the NLS
>>> new talking book machine, those files on your computer won't do you
>>> any good. If you only have the new NLS talking book machine, then
>>> there's nothing else you need do--except download and read to your
>>> heart's content.
>>>
>>> Sincerely and kind regards,
>>> Wayne
>>>
>>> On 8/12/09, Joel Deutsch <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>>> Key for NlS? what sort of key?I download files from the BARD online
>>>> catalogue and I don't need a key, just my ID and pass to log onto the
>>>> site.
>>>> Is there something different that happens if you aren't going to listen
>>>> to
>>>> one of these files on your NLS digital player? You have to tell them
>>>> you're
>>>> to play it on your Stream,for example, and then in some way they "send"
>>>> you
>>>> a "key?" You can't hear the quotation marks around those two words, but
>>>> they're there. They indicate that I don't exactly know what's meant.
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> What happens? You send them the model number of your device, and they
>>>> send
>>>> you a secret membership number that you have to type in somewhere
>>>> before
>>>> you
>>>> can transfer the files (many of them, for these digital books, I mean
>>>> just
>>>> for one book, might be more than a dozen files), and then they'll
>>>> transfer
>>>> to your Stream and you can play them?
>>>>
>>>> Or? Someone please describe how this work. Maybe I'll win the lottery
>>>> and
>>>> buy a Stream, and then I'll have to understand this stuff.
>>>>
>>>> thanks.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:08 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] free daisy player
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I just checked my receipts and I didn't have to pay for the activation
>>>> key
>>>> to download NLS books.  I did have to pay for the one I got from RFB
>>>> And
>>>> D
>>>> which cost $10.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of Hoffman, Allen
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:09 PM
>>>> To: gui-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: [gui-talk] free daisy player
>>>>
>>>> Lets b clear and accurate here.
>>>>
>>>> I did not have to pay extra for an NLS certificate.
>>>> I didn't pay for the update for the NLS certificate for my stream.
>>>> I don't pay for certificates for bard.loc.gov when downloading books
>>>> for
>>>> my stream.
>>>>
>>>> Less clear or accurate:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The PDA from LevelStar has an NLS certificate also I think.
>>>> The Book Sense probably will also.
>>>>
>>>> PC-based readers don't have an NLS certificate at present for some
>>>> unfounded fears somewhere between NLS and publishing communities.  We
>>>> need to get to the root of this, and start working to a reasonable
>>>> solution.  I suppose the blindness community is not a favorite in some
>>>> publishing circles at present due to our insistence on access to
>>>> electronic materials, but NLS should be a driver for change of culture
>>>> in the publishing community as well as a service provider.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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