[gui-talk] Basic inquiry about Mac, including the laptops

Mon Aug 17 05:14:21 UTC 2009

Les,

Well, I guess I have to say I can't figure out what you meant in the way of 
an analogy. I just can't. I think it's the way you phrased what you said, to 
be honest. you see them both less and less? Try that one again, rephrased, 
please? No insult intended.  Really want to know what you meant.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Les Kriegler" <kriegler at nycap.rr.com>
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Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Basic inquiry about Mac, including the laptops

Hi Joel,

I was trying to make an analogy.  I work with many individuals who have
become blind later in life and that was the basis for my comments.
Personally, I've been totally blind my entire life.

Les

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 11:02 AM
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Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Basic inquiry about Mac, including the laptops

Les,

You see both of them less and less? By that, and I'm sorry if this is a
difficult thing to talk about but I honestly don't understand, when you say
you see them both less and less, do you mean you're partially sighted,
you've been relying at least somewhat on catching sight of the screen, and
that recently, for some reason, your vision has decline noticeably so that
you can see the screen of either computer, or the screen of any computer,
less and less,? More and more blind, I mean?
Sorry, but sincere.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Arrigo" <n0oxy at charter.net>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Basic inquiry about Mac, including the laptops

I actually have windows xp on my mac using fusion, and I also have a pc, I
se both of them less and less and am mainly using the mac operating system
now, my mac is a desktop.
On Aug 14, 2009, at 10:24 PM, Joel Deutsch wrote:

> Mike,
>
> I'm not sure exactly what you mean by your last statement. You're
> using your Windows less ad less? By that, do you mean you keep another
> computer which runs under Windows, but you're using it less and less
> as you become more comfortable with this new Mac of yours? Or do you
> mean you've had Windows on that Mac either under Boot Camp or the
> other thing, but you're allowing yourself to just use the MAC OS more
> and more of the time without the safety wheels, so to speak?
>
> Also, is this a desktop or a laptop you're using, this new Mac? I
> guess it can't be quite that new, if a new OS is about to be released.
> but you know what I mean. New in your life, anyway.
>
> thanks.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Arrigo" <n0oxy at charter.net>
> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 4:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Basic inquiry about Mac, including the laptops
>
>
> Hi, I am typing this message on my mac. I'd say that voice over isn't
> just close to providing the same access, it's there already and with
> the new release of the operating system next month, it will get even
> better. Since I've had my mac, I have found myself using windows less
> and less.
> On Aug 14, 2009, at 1:16 AM, Joel Deutsch wrote:
>
>> as I've sort of watched the Mac evolving over the past couple of
>> years in the sense that its operating system seems to be getting
>> close to achieving self-voicing screen reader capability that an
>> experienced jaws guy like me might be able to take seriously, I'm
>> asking for some thoughts.
>>
>> Aren't there a couple of folks on this list who actually, already,
>> *are* Mac
>> desktop or laptop users? How do you folks like your Macs? And Albert,
>> I know you've been toying with the idea of going Mac, same as I'm
>> expressing now.
>> Just seems interesting to think about, now that I allow myself. This
>> in spite of the fact that I have Jaws 11 already paid for on my SMA,
>> but my goodness. I guess if I could get myself a brand new computer
>> that didn't heed it, would be nice to give away my old PC with new
>> Jaws on it.
>> To the
>> Braille Institute or something.
>>
>> Nice ,anyway, a thought experiment. How about it, Mackies?
>>
>> I have one more question, also to do with my daydreaming, but I'll
>> post it separately.
>>
>>
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