[gui-talk] Fw: print VS. single page in N.Y. Times?

Joel Deutsch jdeutsch at dslextreme.com
Sat Jan 17 21:38:01 UTC 2009


There are a lot of typos in my last message. I didn't wait to hear 
everything Spell Check was saying. it's "headlines," not "lines." and other 
stuff. And I meant jaws append to clipboard down near the end. Not "assign." 
I'm a little confused for various reasons, and was writing the post rather 
hurriedly. Sorry.

And sorry Tribble about the junk at the bottom. Same old thing. I forgot to 
look for it, then select and delete it before sending.




---- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joel Deutsch" <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] print VS. single page in N.Y. Times?


Hi Albert,

I'm not sure what you mean by formatting, here. it's just that the basic
page of a Times article is only the first page of what usual, except in the
case of editorials and Op Ed pieces, a multiple-page story. So the single
page view gives you a consolidated article that doesn't require encountering
"next" at the bottom of the page and having to click on it, and that sort of
thing. It just consolidates the article into a single page. Hope that's
cellar.

In the single page view, the article page still has all the global
navigation links and, if there are photographs or graphics, those would
still be visible to a sighted reader, too, as would be advertising bits or
lists of related links to blog and so forth that interrupt the text.

If instead of Single Page View, you click on Print, you get a single page
version of the article plus nearly all the links are gone and don't have to
be skipped through,, so if a person runs it through their printer, it
doesn't look like a crazy attempt to print a Web page in all its detail if
that wasn't your actual desire.

For a screen reader user, it's the cleanest version to read online. I click
on the Print version of every article I read. Just lately, this associated
with financial pressures, no doubt, the Times has stuck in some yadda yadda
on the Print version that's supposed to shame you if your intention was to
print out a bunch of copies and pass them around the office or at a meeting
or something. They try to interest you in paying to get their official
version for doing that. But you can just skip over these stern-sounding
lines once you learn where they are. No big problem. And if you copy the
page with Control A, paste it to your Clipboard and paste it into an email
for someone, you can delete those lines before you send. or if you copy more
selectively than by using Control. a, you can also dispense with them. For
instance, you can select from top down to where those lines start, so you
have the proper New York Times lines, article title, dateline and writer's
byline. Then copy to clipboard.

Then arrow down past that notice to the actual start of the text, select to
bottom, do a Jaws Assign (windows C).

Now when you Insert V paste into that email, it'll probably come out looking
just as it did before they stuck in all those lines with that notice.

But you get the idea.
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 11:53 AM
Subject: [gui-talk] print VS. single page in N.Y. Times?


I can't determine a difference in the formatting of pages with these two
choices and I thought someone else might know.
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