[gui-talk] Landmark Navigation in Window-Eyes

Peter Donahue pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net
Fri Jan 23 22:34:09 UTC 2009


Hello Raul and listers,

    But not across different Web sites. Landmarks are created using the 
<div>or the <span> tags although other tags can be used. Here is an example 
of what I mean:

    <div role="header"></div>
<div role="navigation></div>
<div role="main"><span role="page title"></span>
<ul role=task list">
<li>task 1</li>
<li>task 2</li>
</ul>
"</div>
<div role="footer"></div>



    In Jaws when one encounters the "role" attribute it's interpretted as a 
"Landmark." Thus when the user presses the semicolon they would hear, 
"Header, Navigation, Main, Task List, Footer giving them a better idea of 
how a particular page is laid out. Now going back to my original question 
assuming the site developer has added the "role" attribute to particular 
page content will Window-Eyes detect it and report it back to the user as a 
landmark?Since the site owner is a Window-Eyes user we need to know if WE 
will recognize the "role" attribute if it is present on a Web page and 
recognize it as a landmark? I hope this clarifies things.

Peter Donahue

 ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <raul at asmodean.net>
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Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Landmark Navigation in Window-Eyes


Perhaps, but the place marker feature of Window-Eyes will still
accomplish what Peter was asking about.

Darrell Shandrow wrote the following on 1/23/2009 2:06 PM:
> Hello Raul,
>
> Please review Peter's question. He's talking about "landmarks" which are
> actually coded into the web site itself by its developers as an
> accessibility feature rather than placemarkers which are user defined. I
> don't believe Window-Eyes currently supports "landmarks" does it?
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <raul at asmodean.net>
> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 11:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Landmark Navigation in Window-Eyes
>
>
> Hello. Beginning with Window-Eyes version 7.0 and now still in 7.01, one
> can use place marker features. control-shift-k to set them, and then the
> letter k and shift-k to move amongst the place markers. If you have
> several place markers and you want to jump to one or simply get the
> context of what information is there, you can use the j key. The nice
> thing about place markers is that they can be made to be smart so if the
> text or area you mark moves by several lines, it will still work. In
> today's dynamic world of web pages, this is a must.
>
> many thanks.
>
> Peter Donahue wrote the following on 1/23/2009 1:40 PM:
>> Good afternoon everyone,
>>
>>     I'm working on a Web project for a client who uses Window-Eyes. I
>> proposed placing "Landmarks" a type of ARIA Navigation feature that
>> permits
>> one to move between particular areas of Web pages. Unlike header and
>> same-page navigation landmark navigation is flexible and is
>> user-definable.
>> Users of Firefox and recent Versions of Jaws for Windows can use 
>> landmarks
>> to move around Web pages. An example of how they're used can be found at:
>> http://www.bookshare.org
>>
>>     In Jaws you can navigate landmarks using the semicolon to move 
>> forward
>> or shift+semicolon to move up the page. Does this same key sequence work
>> in
>> Window-Eyes? And for that matter is this a screen reader or a
>> Windows-specific key sequence? My marching orders for this client are, 
>> "If
>> it's going to enhance site accessibility put it on. Otherwise leave it
>> off."
>> Please let me know if Window-Eyes supports page navigation by landmarks.
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>>
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