[gui-talk] Latest Jaws update. Worth the bother to downloadandinstall?

Thu Jun 18 04:08:13 UTC 2009

Wayne,

thanks for telling me a little about your work, although you didn't mention 
in which state your rehab department is. As far as security and such goes, 
I'm fine with all of that. I was just trying to get people to speak 
accurately instead of mushing everything together, which I figure might be 
helpful to somebody someday. Among other work I did over the years before a 
hereditary retinal degeneration inspired me to get out of the rat race and 
do other things, I taught English and ESL for a time. That, along with 
professional writing and editing gigs, make it a little hard to not care 
about the way people write. Bad habit on mailing lists. you get a lot of "I 
don't need no English teacher telling me nothing cause I'm a American" or 
something like that. Irony included at no additional charge.

Anyway, it's all good, like/as they say. If it won't constitute some kind of 
security breach, do tell me what state you're working in. Curious minds, 
etc. This curious mind inhabits a body that's living in Los Angeles, if that 
disclosure is any encouragement. Grin.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wayne Merritt" <wcmerritt at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Latest Jaws update. Worth the bother to 
downloadandinstall?

Greetings. What I teach depends on what I'm assigned to in the 6 week
"cycles" we have at the rehab center I work at. Currently, it's
Web/email, along with Keyboarding, which is ongoing. JAWS is our basis
of teaching for all students. Zoom Text is brought in at some point,
but only in certain situations and only after the person has been
exposed to and has been using JAWS for awhile. In other words, they
don't just come in and start using ZT from the get go.

Personally, I believe what Doug stated earlier is accurate, in that
the JAWS updates are *not* tied to the security of your system. Those
are considered to be either Windows updates or Microsoft Updates,
whatever they're calling them this week, grin. Unfortunately, it
appears as though people can experience problems after installing a
JAWS update with JAWS not doing things that it once did, but that on
its own is not going to suddenly allow hackers and viruses into your
system. Not keeping your security software up to date, such as virus
scanning/definitions and the like, would likely have something to say
about that part of the complex computer equation we weave. I know,
clear as mud, right? :) If you are experiencing unexpected problems or
issues with the current update with JAWS not acting like it did
before, then I'd encourage you to inform FS. And/or consider
performing a System Restore and rolling back to the prior version of
JAWS you were using before the problems started.

Wayne

On 6/17/09, Joel Deutsch <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com> wrote:
> Wayne,
>
> thanks for the thoughts. I did do the update, anyway, and I hope it'll 
> work
> okay. Same as you, I haven't any need for those two bug fixes or 
> functions.
> But someone else here hinted sort of broadly that I might be making myself
> vulnerable to some serious problems if I declined the update, and I 
> haven't
> heard just exactly what that might mean. But whatever, like/as they say.
>
> You mention teaching and  your students. What are you teaching, Jaws
> specifically? Or that and some other skills?
>
> Joel
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wayne Merritt" <wcmerritt at gmail.com>
> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 2:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Latest Jaws update. Worth the bother to download
> andinstall?
>
>
> zzzjoel, you're using a good measuring stick to determine if you
> should get the update; if it doesn't benefit you in any way, then skip
> it. So far I have had no need for track changes in Word, since I don't
> really collaborate on any documents between my colleagues, and I
> couldn't care less about iTunes. So, since there's nothing there for
> me, then I'll just wait for the next minor/major update. And, if that
> next update includes these changes, then fine, but I likely won't run
> out and start using track changes just because they work better with
> JAWS. Sometimes, I'll get an update because I can invision my students
> using said features and I want to be using what they'll be using.
> However, track changes goes beyond what we teach students where I
> work, so no worries there. If enough people have trouble with an
> update, then I'd like to think that FS would release a fix for the
> last round of fixes, but who knows.
>
> Jmt,
> Wayne
>
> On 6/17/09, Joel Deutsch <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com> wrote:
>> I've just been to the FS page where they talk about the bug fixes and
>> improvements in succeeding releases/builds of Jaws 10, and the two things
>> below are all that seems is new this time around. let's be practical,
>> though. If I don't bother to install this update, will having failed to 
>> do
>> so cause me some trouble later when another update is posted, or when 
>> it's
>> time for me to install Jaws 11? I don't want to inconvenience myself like
>> that, but still I'm leery of dutifully installing each new update without
>> question when I hear someone complain that doing so screwed them up in
>> some
>> way. Here are the only two items I found that look like changes in this
>> new
>> build, and neither of these things is of any use to me:
>>
>> a.. Resolved an issue where JAWS would not properly read the playlist
>> window
>> in the latest iTunes® 8 automatic update.
>> a.. Resolved a reported issue with how JAWS worked with the Track Changes
>> feature in Word. Speech and braille were not working correctly for any
>> markups once the view was set to Final.
>> any comments from anybody who's already installed this build? Personally,
>> I
>> always download from the site, and never use the update feature on the
>> Help
>> menu. I've heard too many people say it doesn't work well for them, and I
>> feel safer just doing it myself. Don't want to get into an argument about
>> this if there are several passionate opinions. thanks for understanding.
>> civility is everything.
>>
>>
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