[gui-talk] Please change subject line! Please! Thank you! (was Re: defragging windows:)

Sat Jun 20 17:36:21 UTC 2009

I keep opening these and wasting my time reading arguments about Freedom 
Scientific, mac vs. Windows PCs, and God knows what else will come soon. 
Nothing to do with defragging anymore, and nothing more interesting for me 
to learn about defragging options if I were unhappy with the Windows System 
Tools utility .

thank you very much!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Arrigo" <n0oxy at charter.net>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] defragging windows:

Are you talking about voice over on the macintosh? Well, it's built in
to the operating system which is why it works so well. Is it perfect?
No, but no screen reader is perfect. I'm actually writing this message
on the macintosh. Since it's built in, you don't pay anything extra
for it, which really is the way accessibility should be. As far as the
law suits go, serotek settled with Freedom Science Fiction I don't
know all of the terms, but part of it I think was that serotek had to
agree that they should not have used the word freedom, it's stupid.
Not sure about the gw micro suit, last I heard it's still pending.
On Jun 20, 2009, at 10:28 AM, albert griffith wrote:

> Mike, I'd like to know a little more about the screen reader
> software you're
> using since you infer it suffers from no problems with new
> releases.  I've
> yet to have that experience with any large program.  Does anyone
> know how
> the courts found in the two cases Mike mentioned?  thanks
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 9:33 AM
> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] defragging windows:
>
> I actually don't use jaws, but that is only one of the reasons why.
> There are others too, mainly that each time a new release comes out,
> it is full of problems. Also, I refuse to support a company that files
> law suits against their competitors for no good reason. First they sue
> serotek for having the word freedom in their product name, then they
> sue gw-micro because they include the place marker feature in window
> eyes. A company like that will never get a penny of my money, and I
> think others should boycott them as well. When I use windows, I use
> office 2000 which meets my needs and does not use the activation. I
> mainly use the macintosh now, and only use windows when I have to such
> as for my work, the mac is far better in my view.
> On Jun 20, 2009, at 5:32 AM, Chris Hallsworth wrote:
>
>> Curious, does this mean you don't use JAWS because it uses product
>> activation? What about Office.
>>
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>> From: "Mike Arrigo" <n0oxy at charter.net>
>> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 12:19 AM
>> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] defragging windows:
>>
>>> I use oo defrag, it works really well, and supports 5 defrag
>>> methods, diskeeper is also good, but they have started using
>>> product  activation, and I avoid using software like that when I
>>> can.
>>> On Jun 19, 2009, at 7:53 AM, Steve Pattison wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Albert,
>>>>
>>>> I've tried Defraggler and it seems to be a lot faster than the
>>>> defragmenter that comes with Windows.  Also I've read some positive
>>>> reviews about Defraggler from users of the program.
>>>>
>>>> Regards Steve.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 07:24:24 -0400
>>>> "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>> Steve, how much of a real difference do you think these programs
>>>>> make as
>>>>> opposed using the utility provided with Vista?
>>>>
>>>> Regards Steve
>>>> Email:  srp at internode.on.net
>>>> MSN Messenger:  internetuser383 at hotmail.com
>>>> Skype:  steve1963
>>>>
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