[gui-talk] Hot fix (was re: Latest Jaws update. Worth thebother todownload and install?)

Tue Jun 23 00:20:55 UTC 2009

Yes, quite.

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From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 3:50 PM
To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Hot fix (was re: Latest Jaws update. Worth thebother
todownload and install?)

Albert,
Thanks! ah, well at least that makes a little more sense! Was this recent 
update offered that soon after the last one they gave us? I wasn't paying 
attention. It seems like a couple of months. Maybe I just forgot it was only

last week or something. Well, now I'll stop making fun of the expression. I 
can see where calling it a hot fix would sound properly important, emergency

style, to them. More on the order of a safety recall of a product and the 
shipping of replacements to buyers so whatever it was wouldn't poison the 
baby or make the car explode.

LOL

hat uickly
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
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Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 6:40 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Hot fix (was re: Latest Jaws update. Worth thebother

todownload and install?)

I think hot refers to the fix usually being delivered quickly.  Soon after
the last release.

-----Original Message-----
From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 1:22 PM
To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
Subject: [gui-talk] Hot fix (was re: Latest Jaws update. Worth the bother
todownload and install?)

I see. Sounds a little overdramatic to my ear, but that's no big surprise. I

don't think I'm alone in being bemused or even annoyed by hi-tech language
that often strikes one as hyperbolic (in this case, as the expression
signals Emergency! which it probably isn't, to simply illiterate and
irrational. Yes, language evolves and changes with usage. No, we're not all
going to start speaking and writing in a new way that mimics hi tech lingo.
A little bit will leak into general usage, but most of it won't. But there I

go again, my inner Reagan chides my inner Jimmy Carter. Who cares about
linguistic side trips? You must be a English teacher or a lawyer or a
elitist type of person who thinks too much. Pointy heads, we used to call
'em back in the day.

Okay,Okay, okay. I just gotta wonder, do I have to wear protective oven
gloves to handle one of them hot fixes when it's tossed to me like a glowing

rivet?

you gotta love it.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
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Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Latest Jaws update. Worth the bother todownload and
install?

I believe it means the fix was released soon after the last update and
that's it's relatively small.  It's common computer jargon.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 12:16 AM
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Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Latest Jaws update. Worth the bother to download and
install?

Okay. So what's the origin of their using "hot" in the expression? Is it
supposed to make it sound really urgent and important? You think?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Latest Jaws update. Worth the bother to download and

install?

It is a minor patch, usually meant to fix a bug or do something else
minor -- not a major new release.

Dave

At 10:00 PM 6/17/2009, you wrote:
>Dave,
>
>What is meant by the term "hot fix?" Thanks.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 7:26 PM
>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Latest Jaws update. Worth the bother to download
>and
>install?
>
>
>I believe they are calling this one a "hot fix" and I don't believe
>there will be dire consequences to not applying it.
>
>Dave
>
>At 03:59 PM 6/17/2009, you wrote:
> >Also, try to remember that JAWS updates are like service packs for
> >Windows, so they'll just be as important as Windows service packs.
> >If you do not wish to update then consider the consequences.
> >
> >--
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> >From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
> >Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:19 PM
> >To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Latest Jaws update. Worth the bother to
> >downloadandinstall?> All jaws updates are worth the bother to
> >install.  They are to fix things
> >>that are wrong with the present version or to add important features.
> >>It's
> >>very easy to use the update feature so installing the update won't take
> >>anyone more than a few minutes.  Try to remember Freedom Scientific
> >>doesn't
> >>put these out for no reason.
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> >>On
> >>Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
> >>Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 3:43 PM
> >>To: GUI-Talk
> >>Subject: [gui-talk] Latest Jaws update. Worth the bother to download and
> >>install?
> >>
> >>I've just been to the FS page where they talk about the bug fixes and
> >>improvements in succeeding releases/builds of Jaws 10, and the two
> >>things
> >>below are all that seems is new this time around. let's be practical,
> >>though. If I don't bother to install this update, will having failed to
> >>do
> >>so cause me some trouble later when another update is posted, or when
> >>it's
> >>time for me to install Jaws 11? I don't want to inconvenience myself
> >>like
> >>that, but still I'm leery of dutifully installing each new update
> >>without
> >>question when I hear someone complain that doing so screwed them up in
> >>some
> >>way. Here are the only two items I found that look like changes in this
> >>new
> >>build, and neither of these things is of any use to me:
> >>
> >>a.. Resolved an issue where JAWS would not properly read the playlist
> >>window
> >>
> >>in the latest iTunesR 8 automatic update.
> >>a.. Resolved a reported issue with how JAWS worked with the Track
> >>Changes
> >>feature in Word. Speech and braille were not working correctly for any
> >>markups once the view was set to Final.
> >>any comments from anybody who's already installed this build?
> >>Personally,
> >>I
> >>always download from the site, and never use the update feature on the
> >>Help
> >>menu. I've heard too many people say it doesn't work well for them, and
> >>I
> >>feel safer just doing it myself. Don't want to get into an argument
> >>about
> >>this if there are several passionate opinions. thanks for understanding.
> >>civility is everything.
> >>
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