[gui-talk] A glitch in the righteous posture? (wasReadingRightsCoalition Denounces Random House)

[Don Moore]

You download books and can do email on it.  It's basically like a glorified 
PDA.  The wife loves hers.
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HR-6320 did not pass last year, so I do not think it is covered by
current FCC regs.  Also, is it really internet ready?  Can you download
books directly to it, or do you have to download them to a PC first?
The device as it currently exists is not accessible to blind persons
because the speech only starts once a book has been opened.  The font
size can be increased, but again, only after the book has been opened.
The font size for the menus and prompts is only 6 point, so it would not
be readable for a low vision user unless he put it under a magnifier or
CCTV.

Andy


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ReadingRightsCoalition Denounces Random House)

Not sure of all the legal ramifications, but as an internet ready device
you'd think it would fall under the FCC regs for accessibility, and
should have to meet such.  Since Amazon is trying to get it into the
education market there are regulations for accessibility there too.
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RightsCoalition Denounces Random House)


I have seen a lot of discussion on this issue about the Amazon Kindle
and the juggling of copyright law in regard to speech output. I don't
wish to address the legal issues, either from the copyright side or the
ADA side.
But what I do wonder, repeatedly, is what all this can matter,
practically speaking, for someone like me lacking central (macular)
vision or totally blind, as the controls that allow use of this device
are said to be inaccessible, I believe because they're touch-screen
controls and not mechanical buttons whose use can be memorized by an
enterprising person with a little help from a sighted tutor, meaning a
friend who will patiently teach the skill.

For whose benefit is protest being made at this point? The partially
sighted who can read visually given enough text size and contrast, but
who for some reason can't locate and identify the control buttons? if
so, I can say fine, no problem. But If the stated objection is without
regard to the possible ironies and contradictions and, as such, is
actually just a first step in an anticipated battle to inspire yet a
further upgrade to the Kindle that will, this time, include
blind-operable controls, that too I could understand.
Hassle them about the copyright thing first, then, while they're busy
fighting the NFB over that, hit them with the control inaccessibility
thing.
Never having been entirely serious about the copyright issue while it
was still moot for practical reasons to do with nonoperability.

Personally, if I were to purchase a Kindle, I'd have to do all my
reading on it aided by a sighted person who could change the page
display for me, like the page turner who stands beside the bench of a
concert pianist as the pianist plays from his or her score. This isn't
practical for me, as I have neither a slave or a paid assistant. So I
continue to buy my commercial recorded books from audible. com and play
the files either on my computer with the Jaws-friendly Audible Manager
software or on my .mp3 player, which required two people, one blind via
email and a second sighted and here with me, to teach me how to use well
enough despite the unit's reliance on a menu window.

I hope I've posed this seeming contradiction clearly enough.

thanks.


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