[gui-talk] VoiceOver -- was: Re: Microsoft security essentials

[Mike Arrigo]

It can do scripts, but the approach Apple has taken with voice over is somewhat different. It's true that voiceover does not have specific keystrokes for each application, so in some cases, yes, it might require a bit more navigation. However, the advantage here is that once you learn the voiceover commands, you can use them with every application. This allows voiceover to work out of the box with applications such as adium, which is used for instant messaging, and skype. With the windows screen readers, when new versions of these programs are released, the screen reader usually requires an update to work correctly, not so with voiceover.
On Jul 10, 2010, at 1:24 PM, qubit wrote:

> I heard that VO is nice in that it gives almost full access out of the box, 
> but that the process of getting things done is a little more cumbersome on 
> the mac -- more keystrokes and key combinations to learn.
> Can VO be scripted or trained to do some common things quickly in specific 
> applications?
> --le
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at comcast.net>
> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 10:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Microsoft security essentials
> 
> 
> Frankly, It's way more than a mere screen reader.  Voice Over is built right 
> in to the operating system.  If you want to really get a good idea of the 
> things you can do with the Mac, I'd go here to listen to Mike's wonderful 
> work on it:
> 
> www.blindcooltech.com
> 
> There, you'll find all the information you need; well, most all of it 
> anyhow.
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> E-Mail:
> rforetjr at comcast dot net
> Skype Name:
> barefootedray
> 
> On Jul 10, 2010, at 9:32 AM, Don H wrote:
> 
>> So not knowing much about Apple Mac's it contains a built in speech syn?
>> One that is as useful as a stand alone screen reader?
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
>> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 8:05 AM
>> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Microsoft security essentials
>> 
>> Frankly, I'd have to agree with Mike.  IF you feel you must continue to 
>> run
>> Windows, (for what ever strange reason), Just couldn't resist that...yes,
>> Microsoft Security Essentials is indeed a good solution.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> E-Mail:
>> rforetjr at comcast dot net
>> Skype Name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
>> On Jul 10, 2010, at 12:09 AM, Mike Freeman wrote:
>> 
>>> You bet!
>>> M
>>> ike
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: " Don H" <lmddh50 at comcast.net>
>>> To: "GUI Talk" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 11:06 AM
>>> Subject: [gui-talk] Microsoft security essentials
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> So is this Microsoft security essentials a good choice for protection
>> using
>>>> a screeen reader?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> gui-talk mailing list
>>>> gui-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gui-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> gui-talk:
>>>> 
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/gui-talk_nfbnet.org/k7uij%40panix.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> gui-talk mailing list
>>> gui-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gui-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> gui-talk:
>>> 
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/gui-talk_nfbnet.org/rforetjr%40comcast
>> .net
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> gui-talk mailing list
>> gui-talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gui-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> gui-talk:
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/gui-talk_nfbnet.org/lmddh50%40comcast.
>> net
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> gui-talk mailing list
>> gui-talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gui-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>> gui-talk:
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/gui-talk_nfbnet.org/rforetjr%40comcast.net
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> gui-talk mailing list
> gui-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gui-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> gui-talk:
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/gui-talk_nfbnet.org/lauraeaves%40yahoo.com 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> gui-talk mailing list
> gui-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gui-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for gui-talk:
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/gui-talk_nfbnet.org/n0oxy%40charter.net